MERGED - "About Edition Wars" threads x9

[Diamond Cross]

HAving a favorite and expressing what one loves about it is fine.

What's not fine are s who think everybody should bow down and play things their way or no way.

And starting endless threads of edition war crap.

If I was a mod I'd automatically ban someone who started a thread like this right off the bat for a week.

 

[Cor_Malek]

Um it's segregation that makes people forget how similar all RPG's are which in turn causes a lot of hostility. 4e, PF and DnD legacy forums are important to make things tidy, and because there is a lot of subjects that really can't be taken out of context of system, ie recent bard damage output thread. Nah, scratch that - actually, even that thread has gained because of past experiences of contributors with previous bard versions. So... maybe the UM playtest.
But I see a lot of threads in all of those, that if anything - would benefit from insight from more people - regardless of their system - questions about settings, character ideas and quests especially.

I'd still advise to post threads in more specific subforums, else they risk being missed by people who visit them - like the awesome posts of DaveW on mappaking that got lost in too many threads in Generel, or class creation question posted in probably least visited EnWorld subforum - Plots and Places. On the other hand, the aforementioned forum is often ignored and threads that would fit there go to system-specific or General.

 

[Azgulor]

If I was a mod I'd automatically ban someone who started a thread like this right off the bat for a week.

"Thread like this" meaning an edition war thread or "thread like this" meaning this thread where I'm simply suggesting that the General Forum be used for General RPG topics?

 

[gamerprinter]

In addition to threads that become Edition Wars, why are there so many threads like this one, that wants to discuss the Edition Wars at all. I think the best way to forget or put the matter aside is not to bring it up.

I don't think the Edition Wars are a subject worth discussing on this or any forum, it tends to lead to Edition Wars in of itself. When I read the title of this, my eyes rolled and I thought - not again! It seems that if a given thread doesn't become an edition war, its a discussion about 'why', 'how come', or other kind of debate about the wars themselves.

Didn't you see that another EW thread just got shut down this morning and it hadn't even gotten to EW yet? So stop doing it - discuss something else.

I'm tired of reading about the Edition War at all... grrr.

GP

 

[nedjer]

Prison seems a touch Old Testament. Perhaps community service would be good. They could bog off for a while and run a group for new players using a different system from whichever holy book they consider so important. Then they could come back and post entertaining threads with new ideas

 

[Diamond Cross]

"Thread like this" meaning an edition war thread or

Any edition war thread. I'm incredibly tired of the one true wayism junk. And it doesn't matter if it starts out with about one's favorite edition because some ass will just derail it with why he thinks it sucks in some way.

They need to be given a moratorium for a few months to a year.

 

[Azgulor]

In addition to threads that become Edition Wars, why are there so many threads like this one, that wants to discuss the Edition Wars at all. I think the best way to forget or put the matter aside is not to bring it up.

I don't think the Edition Wars are a subject worth discussing on this or any forum, it tends to lead to Edition Wars in of itself. When I read the title of this, my eyes rolled and I thought - not again! It seems that if a given thread doesn't become an edition war, its a discussion about 'why', 'how come', or other kind of debate about the wars themselves.

Didn't you see that another EW thread just got shut down this morning and it hadn't even gotten to EW yet? So stop doing it - discuss something else.

I'm tired of reading about the Edition War at all... grrr.

GP

Allowing for the possibility I've fallen into another dimension or that what I'm typing isn't actually being displayed they way I'm typing it, WTF?!? I started this thread b/c I'm tired of Edition War threads and thought that if the General Forum was used as intended by its description, and edition specific topics were placed in the forums created for them, we might actually see a decrease in Edition War threads.

If you don't agree with my suggestion, that's cool. If you rolled your eyes at the title, ok that's cool too. But spare me the indignation for making a suggestion to reduce the number of edition war threads that didn't include ignore lists, banning users, banning topics, or otherwise stifling discussion on the boards.

 

[JohnRTroy]

To be honest, ENWorld IS Switzerland. The Mods are the Halberd wielders of Helvetia, each of them all owning a Canton.

This is a strongly moderated forum. If you want to see what a war really looks like, go to one of the old school forums and see how much they critique the newer editions (and I'd bring up a good example of a new school forum if I knew of one that was 4e only), or go to a forum like RPGSite or someplace where people are allowed a lot more "leeway".

The key thing to stop the edition wars require both sides to do the following.

* Don't be criticizing the players, stick to what you don't like about the rules, marketing, design style, etc.

* If you are on the opposite side, don't assume that criticism of the game is criticism of you as a person. But don't try to suppress actual honest discussion either.

 

[El Mahdi]

The Mods are the Halberd wielders of Helvetia...

Now I so want to see Piratecat, Rel, Umbran, and all the other mods dressed like this:

With Morrus as a Swiss Guard Commander:

 

[NewJeffCT]

Every edition of D&D has good things about it and bad things about it, and there is no perfect way to play D&D (except MY way, of course!) And, what is good and bad about each edition is different from person to person.

I think as long as the discussions are civil and stick to the pros/cons of the games themselves and don't go over into personal attacks, I think it's fine to discuss D&D in its various incarnations.

If there is a "Switzerland" of D&D, I would vote for the original Basic D&D boxed set.