Midnight 2.0 PDF on sale now...for $50!!!!


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Morrus said:
As far as I know, most of the established print publishers can't undercut the print versions with cheaper online PDF versions even if they wanted to. The retailers and the distributors have a lot of influence in these things.

well, they could give envision a way for people with the paper version to have a discount on the pdf, if they want to buy it. like contacting them by mail and answer a couple of questions only somebody with the book could answer. or give the text of the pdf for free with the paper version. or something like that.
 

At least with AGoT if you bought the deluxe edition on pre-order they sent you a code for the PDF free. I got my email from them last night :)
 

To me, there is no justification for that kind of price-tag. Supply and demand dictate cost. With a pdf, supply is ready, and infinite. Demand is not so much, but... overhead is very little. Hence-- profit on every pdf. Do they really need to make (guessing here) 50,000% profit? I'm not supporting that kind of mark up.
 

$50.00 is too rich for my blood. It'd be nice if you purchased directly from FFG if they gave you a discount on the pdf version. On the price of the print book, besides adding most of ATS to the book, FFG also added 40,000 words of new material, the size of one of their $14.95 supplements, so the price rise is justified.

Varangian
 

I would pay 50 for the PDF if I wanted to run a Midnight campaign and introduce it to the players. It would be useful to be able to print out the character classes etc. I would be wary of asking them the shill out 50 dollars, but would hope that they would if they liked the material.
 

While I too wouldn't shell out that much for a PDF, I don't really think that the majority of us are the intended demographic for that product.

First, I can't imagine that offering a PDF version of an already existing book costs very much, so it's worth a few extra dollars to extend your product to an audience that likely it wouldn't reach. Second, that audience is likely those overseas.

Imagine that you live somewhere far away from the US. And you'd like that book - but the print version is 50 bucks - and then you'll have to ship it. International shipping on a large book can't be cheap, and if you want the book sometime in the same lunar cycle, it can quickly cost you twice or more the original price of the book!

So the question becomes not "Who would pay $50 for a PDF when you can get the book for $50?" but "Who would pay $100 for a book when you can get the PDF for $50?" And for the small incremental cost of the PDF, you've picked up a handful of sales you'd never have made.

And you turned a tidy profit on those few sales too!
 

DaveMage said:
Yeah, that is a bit steep.

Maybe they will drop the .pdf price once the book has been out a while.

Unlikely.

They have I think three books on permanent sale as pdfs necromantic lore, draconic lore, and the anthology one. None of their other books, even the 3.0 old ones are reduced down from cover print prices.
 

Morrus said:
As far as I know, most of the established print publishers can't undercut the print versions with cheaper online PDF versions even if they wanted to. The retailers and the distributors have a lot of influence in these things. From there POV there are only two choices - sell the PDF online at the same price, or don't sell it at all.

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As far as I know White wolf is only behind WotC in size for RPG print publishers. And their new pdf stuff is generally 30% off the cover price and 50% off for old stuff. Plus there is the malhavoc pricing with Iron Heroes, Arcana Evolved, etc.
 


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