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Millions donated to help save Enterprise

Umbran said:
...How is paying a few bucks to cover production costs of a program really any different from paying a few bucks for a season of that show on DVD?

I don't think there's much difference at all.

... If each of those people donated about $12 to their show, they'd pay for the whole season.

I'd be perfectly happy to pay $12/season to the producers of the shows I like to watch.

Provided that in return the producers provide me a COMMERCIAL FREE copy of the show, just like I get when I buy the DVD's.
 

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johnsemlak said:
OK, I admit they way you put it It might be worth putting up some dough. But they way this drive is being promoted (using words 'donate' or 'contribute'--words I associate with charity), I don't see this as being something where I pay $15 dollars and as a result get a product for that.

Fine. It is well known that not all promotion schemes work for all people. Some folks like to think of a thing as charity, helping out their fellow fans. Others like to think in terms of purchasing a product. Please pardon them if they didn't hire a Madison Avenue Advertiser to design their promotions. :)

Pyrex said:
Provided that in return the producers provide me a COMMERCIAL FREE copy of the show, just like I get when I buy the DVD's.

Not gonna happen for $12 per season. One generally pays anywhere from $30 to $100 per season of a show now, after the advertising revenue has taken care of the production costs. If you want commercial-free DVDs up front, you'd better expect to pay a lot more, just like when you buy the DVDs now.

That being said, direct-subscription DVD sale might become a viable alternative for genre programming. But don't expect folks to leap all the way to that at once. This might be a first step in that direction, though. If it can be shown that fans are willig to cough up money before seeing the show, someone might give it a whirl.

Psychic Warrior said:
Are there really people this stupid out there? Really? This stupid?

Are there really people that cynical out there? Really? That cynical?

Your userid styles you as a master of the mind. So opening your mind to new possibilities should be easy for you. :)
 


$30 million would buy 10 million insecticide-impregnated mosquito nets for children in Africa. There are approximately 300 million to 500 million malaria episodes in Africa each year, with 1.5 million to 2 million deaths, mostly children. That $30 million could easily save the lives of 1 million children.

Think about that. Save the lives of one million children.

Yes, we all spend our discretionary income on whatever we want, but man, it sure seems like saving the lives of one million children is worth a lot more than a season of Enterprise.
 


Fast Learner said:
Yes, we all spend our discretionary income on whatever we want, but man, it sure seems like saving the lives of one million children is worth a lot more than a season of Enterprise.
Or a bookcase full of 2nd Edition AD&D products.

If this were to be an investment, I want to be assured that my vested interest is served well, and that the people or organization is competent enough to handle my investment, letting no one obstruct their cause (like some corrupted government officials or rebel army in some third-world country who would nothing better than to control the flow of humanitarian aids into their country and feed only people they like, leaving others too weak to oppose them).
 

Umbran said:
Are there really people that cynical out there? Really? That cynical?

Your userid styles you as a master of the mind. So opening your mind to new possibilities should be easy for you. :)

How about you send me 30 million and I take over Enterprise? I make sure no one sees it again. For only 30 million! Think about it!

You really can't see the problem with giving money to an already bloated franchise in the hope that they might churn out yet another season of a failed (and terrible) TV show? And does anyone think that they will get a sya in how such a show would turn out? If you do i have a beautiful bridge in brooklyn for you.

And i'm not a master of the mind - I attack the mind! Take that brain! *stabs with Q-Tip*

Also this 'Stewey' guy sums up my personal beliefs better http://www.trekbbs.com/threads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB19&Number=4082806

Stewey said:
These fans do not speak for ALL Star Trek fans, they speak only for a small minority of Trek fans who approve of and support Enterprise and therefore the continued decline of quality the franchise is producing. Had this 3 million dollars been raised by small donations by a fanbase with strong numbers, then this would be seen as a very definite and ringing endorsement of this show. It isn’t, it is 3 anonymous fans that simply have a rather large amount of money to spend aiming to bring publicity to the campaign.
 
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Umbran said:
Before folks start chanting that Enterprise is not a charity, think a moment. How is paying a few bucks to cover production costs of a program really any different from paying a few bucks for a season of that show on DVD?

I don't think there's much difference at all.


I was a big fan of Buffy The Vampire Slayer. As a result I own seasons 1-5 of the show. Anyone else out there who was a fan knows that there are 7 seasons of Buffy. Why dont I have the final two? Because I didnt think that they were worth purchasing. I watched them on TV and other than a few good episodes between seasons 6-7 I thought that overall those two seasons were weak as hell.

That's the difference. With the DVD's I've already seen what I'm getting. While that's not the case for everyone who buys DVD's of thier favorite shows I'm pretty certain that it's the case for most. You know fans of the genre being fans of the genre and all...

Also if I were the creative director of a genre show the last thing that I'd want is a bunch of slathering fans telling me how to run the show and thinking that they had a right to do so because they paid for the season. As much as I didnt like the last 2 seasons of Buffy, it was FOX's and Whedon's baby to do with as they pleased.

You think reality TV is Bad? Fan Sponsored Genre shows will be even worse. I hope to GOD that this fails...
 

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