Miniature Combat - What RPGs Use it

[Alaxk Knight of Galt]

Simple question, what RPGs use Miniature combat.

Obviously, 3rd, 3.5, and 4th Edition Dungeons and Dragons use them. But outside of the d20 System, what other RPGs use miniature combat.

 

[darjr]

Savage Worlds.

 

[DEFCON 1]

Champions (and I presume the extended HERO System) is meant to be played on a grid I believe.

 

[Weregrognard]

GURPS does it on a hex grid, but it's considered optional as part of the "Advanced" combat rules.

 

[Rechan]

I presume Warhammer, given how they have all those minis.

 

[darjr]

I presume Warhammer, given how they have all those minis.

Actually none of the ones I know of really do. You have to kind of fudge it. 40k and Fantasy 2e and 3e. Though 3e does have the standies they really are only used for marching order and a rough idea of range, but I guess that would count.

 

[Summer-Knight925]

When I say a game forces you to use them, I mean all the abilities use 'squares' or 'hexes' or something to that effect.

So 4e makes you
3.5 makes you
3e makes you

While you can play without them in 3e and 3.5, I realy can't see how you do it in 4e

Call of Cthuhlu brings it up, Palladium has Rifts miniatures, but I don't see how these really require miniatures, I play both without them.

Miniatures are nice, but I find them much more problematic, especially with moder/future games. The firepower of a plasma cannon can destroy that nice room you drew up, not to mention most weapons have longer ranges than your battlemat.

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

Well, D&D, like many games use "squares", "feet", and "yards" among other distance units, and HERO and GURPS both use hexes, and may use English OR metric measurements...

But even so, you don't NEED minis for those games. They just make things easier.

 

[The Shaman]

Original, "classic" Traveller has some great minis rules, for everything from skirmishes (Snapshot and Azhanti High Lightning) to battlefields (Striker) to starships (Mayday), and all of it worked with the roleplaying game.

What's perhaps more remarkable, Traveller rules also offer options for mini-less combat for skirmishes, battles, and starships as well.

 

[Bullgrit]

When I say a game forces you to use them, I mean all the abilities use 'squares' or 'hexes' or something to that effect.

So 4e makes you
3.5 makes you
3e makes you

Well, actually, D&D3 uses "feet" for abilities, not "squares" or "hexes". The AD&D1 game rule nomenclature supports minis on the table, using "inches" throughout the books to mean 10s of feet in the game world.

Marvel Super Heroes (FASERIP) uses "area". It even comes with stand-up tokens for use on a combat map.

I've used minis for combat in every RPG I've ever run.

Bullgrit