Michael Silverbane
Adventurer
hong said:
What about for an organization that uses tattoos as a status symbol and symbol of rank?
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silver
Minion Status: Private or Public?
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What about for an organization that uses tattoos as a status symbol and symbol of rank?
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silver
ZetaStriker
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But what if one of the clan leader's sons in a complete schmuck but got chosen to lead because of his relation? He'd be a high ranking minion! *makes a note to do that later*
Saeviomagy
Adventurer
Personally I'd be likely to do it this way, which is very much the way it happens in a movie or book.
Everything's a minion unless it's getting extra screen time/description.
If I chuck down 20 minis and then put one behind them on it's own, guess which are the minions?
If the players meet a mixed bag of orcs, the minions are the ones where I say "ok, you get hit for 3,5 and 7", and the soldiers/elites/whatevers are the ones where I say "his mighty blow glances off your armor"
If you have to ask me which foe damaged you, then the one that did it is a minion.
That may of course work in reverse - a minion who crits the party leader as his first attack will quite possibly be upgraded to non-minionhood, while his buddy goes down a rank to balance it out.
Same goes for if people pick on a particular miniature. If my band of orc minis happens to have one in them that players call out as something other than a position ("the one with the yellow bandana"), he's probably not a minion.
Everything's a minion unless it's getting extra screen time/description.
If I chuck down 20 minis and then put one behind them on it's own, guess which are the minions?
If the players meet a mixed bag of orcs, the minions are the ones where I say "ok, you get hit for 3,5 and 7", and the soldiers/elites/whatevers are the ones where I say "his mighty blow glances off your armor"
If you have to ask me which foe damaged you, then the one that did it is a minion.
That may of course work in reverse - a minion who crits the party leader as his first attack will quite possibly be upgraded to non-minionhood, while his buddy goes down a rank to balance it out.
Same goes for if people pick on a particular miniature. If my band of orc minis happens to have one in them that players call out as something other than a position ("the one with the yellow bandana"), he's probably not a minion.
Ulthwithian
First Post
http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0105.html
Perception test: If you can tell me who's a minion (and, perhaps more importantly, who isn't) in the above link (and yes, it's an honest-to-goodness OotS link), you shouldn't have a problem in any of my games.
Perception test: If you can tell me who's a minion (and, perhaps more importantly, who isn't) in the above link (and yes, it's an honest-to-goodness OotS link), you shouldn't have a problem in any of my games.
Hey all.
I'm pretty sure that I will run/describe minions in the same manner that I run/describe all of the other creatures in the area which are not obvious leaders.
For example, if the encounter consists of a hobgoblin warcaster, 2 hobgoblin soldiers, 1 hobgoblin archer, and 3 hobgoblin minions (whatever they may be) 2 of those minions might resemble that archer and the remaining one might resemble that soldier. This includes all gear, tactics, and demeanor. At the time the pcs interact with them ill' choose which one was the real one and which was the minion depending on what would be the most fun for the encounter or which would be the most epic for the scene.
If the pcs fighter were to get the drop on this group and the fighter was able to charge in and do some decent surprise round damage then it wouldn't be too cinematic if the hobgoblin turned around and clobbered him because he charged the real monster and not the minion. Id rather see that first strike cleave the poor hobs armor asunder and send his flailing body into the nearby fire pit while the real soldiers get their senses together and retaliate. Same goes with wasting daily and encounter powers. If I feel the pc would be upset if his brute strike was used to annihilate a minion then I would make sure this wasn't the case.
This is how Iv ran most of my recent 3.5 games and I don't feel as if my personal group would feel cheated in anyway by me not blatantly stating who was and was not a minion. In fact I think they would feel cheated if I did.
I'm pretty sure that I will run/describe minions in the same manner that I run/describe all of the other creatures in the area which are not obvious leaders.
For example, if the encounter consists of a hobgoblin warcaster, 2 hobgoblin soldiers, 1 hobgoblin archer, and 3 hobgoblin minions (whatever they may be) 2 of those minions might resemble that archer and the remaining one might resemble that soldier. This includes all gear, tactics, and demeanor. At the time the pcs interact with them ill' choose which one was the real one and which was the minion depending on what would be the most fun for the encounter or which would be the most epic for the scene.
If the pcs fighter were to get the drop on this group and the fighter was able to charge in and do some decent surprise round damage then it wouldn't be too cinematic if the hobgoblin turned around and clobbered him because he charged the real monster and not the minion. Id rather see that first strike cleave the poor hobs armor asunder and send his flailing body into the nearby fire pit while the real soldiers get their senses together and retaliate. Same goes with wasting daily and encounter powers. If I feel the pc would be upset if his brute strike was used to annihilate a minion then I would make sure this wasn't the case.
This is how Iv ran most of my recent 3.5 games and I don't feel as if my personal group would feel cheated in anyway by me not blatantly stating who was and was not a minion. In fact I think they would feel cheated if I did.
Oni
First Post
I believe in playing it close to the vest, don't tell players more than they need to know. I know a lot of DM's like to talk about the could have beens or the stuff that was missed after games, but I've found it much more rewarding to keep your mouth shut no matter how much you want to spill the beans. It raises the air of mystery and keeps more stuff that you can use for later.
Hussar
Legend
Player: "Hey, that NPC has a NAME KILL HIM!!!"
It should be fairly obvious when minions are coming out to play. There will be lots and lots of them. If you have 5 bad guys in front of you, there's likely no minions. If you have 15 guys in front of you, likely a few are. The descriptions of the monsters will possibly give them away - the ones that all look pretty much the same? They're minions.
It should be fairly obvious when minions are coming out to play. There will be lots and lots of them. If you have 5 bad guys in front of you, there's likely no minions. If you have 15 guys in front of you, likely a few are. The descriptions of the monsters will possibly give them away - the ones that all look pretty much the same? They're minions.
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