[MMIII] Yes. Thank you.

Some of the Hastings booka nd music stores are still selling this book for 30% off (I just bought it discounted yesterday). An excellent value on a superb book. I am really glad I bought this book.
 

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The Eldritch Giant and all of the undead monsters within are worth the purchase price alone IMHO. I really like what the did with the undead in this one.
 

Mystery Man said:
The Eldritch Giant and all of the undead monsters within are worth the purchase price alone IMHO. I really like what the did with the undead in this one.

I flipped through it and noticed that quite a few had CHA bonus to hp .. a good mechanic IMO, because undead lack the necessary hp at higher levels. Do you reckon this might be a new mechanic for 4e? ;)

I mean new standard for all undead mechanic.
 
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ForceUser said:
Overall, there are very few duds here. At 30 bucks, this is money well spent...except for the fact that I already owned five monster books plus a plethora of sourcebooks containing monsters and really didn't NEED to buy another monster book. But I'm still glad I got it.

HAHAHAAHAH!!!

I had the Red Cap months, maybe even, YEARS ago--thanks to the Creature Catalog!
Plus, tons of other pre-3e monsters, all for print costs and hard drive space!

I also save just about anything free from the WotC website...

Now, I finally have the MM 3.0, and I find I have a whoooole lot of monsters to choose from...

...but at least I got mine mostly for free! :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
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Yup...I'm going to Hastings (the only store in my town where I can buy RPG books) tomorrow. Though I can still get the book cheaper online, I might buy off the shelf just to have it in my greedy little hands.
 

I jujst realized something crucial about the MMIII: it is not rogue-friendly. Many of the new creatures are elementals, oozes, swarms, and undead; none of which can be sneak attacked. Many of these same creatures are also amazingly cool. Therefore, I issue this DM advisory warning: be selective in your use of these critters if you have a rogue in your campaign.
 

Numion said:
I flipped through it and noticed that quite a few had CHA bonus to hp .. a good mechanic IMO, because undead lack the necessary hp at higher levels. Do you reckon this might be a new mechanic for 4e? ;)

I mean new standard for all undead mechanic.

I had read that the mechanic was going to get a lot of use in Libris Mortis, so maybe it will be added to all undead from now on.
 

DragonLancer said:
I had read that the mechanic was going to get a lot of use in Libris Mortis, so maybe it will be added to all undead from now on.

I think this is a good move on WotC's part. Undead tend to lack enough hp to stand up against high-level parties. At high levels greater proportion of hp come from the modifiers, not the actual dice.
 

Numion said:
I think this is a good move on WotC's part. Undead tend to lack enough hp to stand up against high-level parties. At high levels greater proportion of hp come from the modifiers, not the actual dice.
A d12 is still significant. If all undead get cha-bonus to hp, I'd hope they would drop the HD down to a d10 or even a d8.
 

My only major problem with the MMIII was that a lot of the CRs, especially for Unholy Toughness-boosted undead, were far short of what they should be. For example, the drowned one has 20HD and Unholy Toughness. It has 150 hp, fast healing 5, and an aura of save-or-die (drowning). Does this sound like a CR 8?

That said, MMIII is a pretty good monster book. Not as good as FF or ToH, but better than MMII and any Creature Collection I could care to name.

And, once the CR issue is taken care of, I like the idea of Unholy Toughness, and would be remiss if it didn't feature into Libris Mortis.

Demiurge out.
 

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