Monster Manual Edition War: The Game!

[Raven Crowking]

How do you set the DC or attack bonus for a 1e or 2e creature?

There were no such things.

Use THAC0. It exists in 1e as well as 2e (see the DMG monster appendix).

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

You know what might make things ugly for the 4Ed critters, despite their HP? Effect durations. Buffs that last "until next turn" are going to run out a lot faster than those with rounds, minutes or hours /level.

 

[Raven Crowking]

I think, done this way, we might learn things about these games that we never considered before.

And, again, very, very funny fights (esp. with monster commentary!).

 

[Redbadge]

Does someone want to do AD&D Orcus versus 4e Orcus, first? I believe both were in their core MM for their respective editions.

How are we gonna run it?

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

Raven Crowking:
Exactly! Can you imagine the look on 1e Asmodeus' face?!?!

Oh yes- much like the thugs getting killed by the gang of urchins in Hostel.

And the same look will be on 4Ed dragons as they get roughed up by kittens.

 

[Patryn of Elvenshae]

Ahh, but 1e has Asmodeus, Orcus, Demogorgon, Tiamat, Bahamut, Yeenoghu, Juiblex, Baalzebul, Geryon... a goodly number of ultrapowerful singular entities. None of the other editions have such a suite of top-level creatures in their MM.

Yeah, but don't they all have, like, 80, 90 hit points, tops?

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

Does someone want to do AD&D Orcus versus 4e Orcus, first? I believe both were in their core MM for their respective editions.

How are we gonna run it?

Two Orcus go in, one Orcus comes out.

 

[Raven Crowking]

Oh yes- much like the thugs getting killed by the gang of urchins in Hostel.

And the same look will be on 4Ed dragons as they get roughed up by kittens.

You know, the 1e cat stats might make sense in 4e, based on damage vs. hit points. Well, except when minions are involved.....

 

[Patryn of Elvenshae]

Also, while I'm thinking about it:

Initiative.

In 1E, it's a d6 check, right? Vs. 3E's and 4E's d20 + Mods? So, 3E and 4E monsters are probably always going to go first.

 

[Redbadge]

So 4e Orcus goes first, uses Touch of Death (resistances and immunities don't apply) and 1e Orcus is down for the count. Is this how it goes down?