Monster Natural Attacks - UPDATE!!!

[Christian]

Well, as I said. I sent off the questions to Sage Advice. IMO that will put an end to the debate.

Let's see ...

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Hey, i_sheol, welcome to the boards!

 

[coyote6]

The new 3.5e monster writeups -- used in the Fiend Folio -- make this clearer. There's an Attack line, and a Full Attack line; the Attack line is what they can do as a Standard Action.

FWIW, every monster I can think of in the FF has only one entry in the Attack line, even the ones whose primary weapons are "2 Claws". I expect MM 3.5e will be the same (with certain possible exceptions -- hydras, ettins, etc.).

 

[Hypersmurf]

I expect MM 3.5e will be the same (with certain possible exceptions -- hydras, ettins, etc.).

Go hydras!

-Hyp.

 

[i_sheol]

Let's see ...

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Hey, i_sheol, welcome to the boards!

Geee...thanks

My point was that AT LEAST the answer will be as official as you can get. That SHOULD put an end to the debate, yes? Even if it wrong

i_sheol, the NEW guy around here, and proud of it!!!

 

[i_sheol]

Let's see ...

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Hey, i_sheol, welcome to the boards!

Geee...thanks

My point was that AT LEAST the answer will be as official as you can get. That SHOULD put an end to the debate, yes? Even if it's wrong

--i_sheol, the NEW guy around here, and proud of it!!!

 

[maddman75]

It will not put an end to the debate, as the Sage can be and often is wrong. I think its just that he answers so many questions that he occasionally answers without fully considering the implications. That or its the more common theory around here, that he has a crack problem.

 

[dcollins]

Here's a quote written by the Sage in the Official Main FAQ, v040403, p. 34:

How do attacks work for monsters with two primary attacks, such as a bear? The first attack listed is supposed to be the primary and the bear’s first is 2 claws +6 melee...

The basics of monster attacks are explained in the Attacks section of the introduction to the Monster Manual (page 7). A bear, or any other creature, has to use the full attack action to get more than one attack in a round... If both claws were part of single attack, the attack entry would read “claws +6 melee” as they do for the raven. (See page 201 of the Monster Manual.)

 

[Hypersmurf]

Here's a quote written by the Sage in the Official Main FAQ...

We should tell him he's been overruled by Customer Service.

Would you like fries with that?

-Hyp.

 

[i_sheol]

Here's a quote written by the Sage in the Official Main FAQ, v040403, p. 34:

Well, for me anyway...that puts an end to the debate.

Nuff said!!!

I think this fits what is in the FF as well.

i_sheol (the New guy)

 

[CRGreathouse]

Okay, everyone pony up another dollar for the "Buy Customer Service a set of rulebooks" fund...

What, their Ouija board isn't enough? C'mon, random letters fit the rules often enough.

(Actually, after the first--and only--email I sent them, I'd suggest an English-language grammar primer. I'm fine with bogus rules, as long as they are comprehensible. My response to a question like "Is A X or Y?" was something like, "Yes, because <something unrelated to A, X, and Y>")