"Monte Cook Presents" Iron Heroes?

[Maggan]

Credit where credit is due

Like I said, I'm not angry about it or even care all that much, but if I was in the same situation has him, ethically, I'd say "no, don't put my name on the book, I didn't write it, give the credit to the people who wrote the book."

I truly think that Monte wants to give Mike Mearls proper credit for writing the book. And if I am to hazard a guess, that's why it says "By Mike Mearls" right there on the cover, in type about the same size as "Monte Cook presents".

I'm wondering why the layout people, the proofreaders, the editors, the illustrators or even the cover artists gets so little love when it comes to credits on the covers. The book is very much dependant on their work as well, and just having the writer get credit on the cover seems unfair. Maybe they should just skip the cover illustration and print the credit page instead.


Cheers!

M.

 

[Dr. Strangemonkey]

I'm wondering why the layout people, the proofreaders, the editors, the illustrators or even the cover artists gets so little love when it comes to credits on the covers. The book is very much dependant on their work as well, and just having the writer get credit on the cover seems unfair. Maybe they should just skip the cover illustration and print the credit page instead.


Cheers!

M.

Amen brother. Plus, role-playing games take a lot of analysis in addition to writing and I think Monte probably put most of that together.

Also worth noting that Mearls is no longer working with Monte, apparently it was amicable, and hasn't been for about two months. He still seems to be helping out with the marketting and I imagine he still has a lot invested in the project, but it does seem to give some justification to the idea that Monte has an active role in the project.

 

[werk]

For one, it's Monte's company putting out the book.

So everything D&D should say 'An Al Verrecchia Product'? (CEO of Hasbro)

Seems vain to me too, and I love Monte's work. I think that may be the difference between working with the general public at large (Tarantino example) and dealing with over-thinking RPG nerds like us...strategery...

 

[JoeGKushner]

I think it's better than going, "Monte Cook's" Iron Heroes or something like Troll Lords did with Gygax's name. Yeah, it's Gary's series, but he didn't write it?

 

[EricNoah]

over-thinking RPG nerds like us

We're quite a treat, I tell you! I don't know how they stand us, actually. But I'm grateful they take our occasional over-thinking and over-reacting with a helping of salt.

 

[werk]

mmm...salt...

 

[Vocenoctum]

While I can speak for neither Monte nor Mike, I highly doubt this strue. If Monte's putting both his own name and his company name on this book, I'm quite certain he's looked through it, approved its contents, probably even had a hand in helping Mike design it. Remember, Mike's not just some freelancer Monte's working with; he's part of the company.

Simply assuming that Monte did nothing but rubber-stamp his name is unfair to both of them, and rather shortsighted to boot.

I go the opposite way. I assume Monte looked over any Malhavok book printed, to some degree or another. So again, the Monte Cook Presents... seems redundant to me.

But, anyway, the stuff that turned me off the book was the "Iron" stuff. I assume it's AU's world and will never look at it again.
(don't have AU)

 

[Maggan]

So everything D&D should say 'An Al Verrecchia Product'? (CEO of Hasbro)

Seems vain to me too, and I love Monte's work. I think that may be the difference between working with the general public at large (Tarantino example) and dealing with over-thinking RPG nerds like us...strategery...

Heh, if Al had written a lot of D&D books, and that was the basis of Hasbro's success with the product line, and he was actively participating in the production, and was still writing D&D books, and was the major creative force behind the direction of the books, and had an active community presence, and had his own personal money on the line ... yeah, he could very well put his name on the books, if he wanted, as far as I'm concerned.

/M

 

[Voadam]

But, anyway, the stuff that turned me off the book was the "Iron" stuff. I assume it's AU's world and will never look at it again.
(don't have AU)

You assume incorrectly. My understanding is it is an alternative PH different from AU or the D&D PH and not set in the default world of AU. It is designed to be balanced against D&D but without PCs having magic items as part of their default power level.

 

[mhacdebhandia]

But, anyway, the stuff that turned me off the book was the "Iron" stuff. I assume it's AU's world and will never look at it again.

Buh? This makes . . . zero sense. The only thing I can think of that relates to iron in Arcana Evolved is the iron witch - one class variant out of about twenty.

That said, no, you're wrong. I believe Mike Mearls has said that there is an example setting presented in the book - the Swordlands, unconnected to the Diamond Throne - but that it's not connected to the rules as much as the Diamond Throne is in Arcana Evolved.