Monte Cooks WoD is for 3.5

[Mouseferatu]

while I always thought they were just a bunch of old, powerful vampires.

In the old WoD, that's all they were. It's one of the details changed for the "reimagining." I think judging anything in the new version by its identity in one of the older versions is a mistake.

 

[Dire Bare]

I'm kind of curious about this, but not $50 curious.

$32.99 on Amazon.com. I'm $33 curious!

 

[Dire Bare]

Actually, the cover is the only thing, that holds me back, to preorder it right now. It is so... poor. Compare it to average nWoD cover. Or even worse... compare it with D&D covers. It has this kind of technique I really dislike. One cover artist in our country paints the fantasy books covers similar way and it is the reason I don't buy them, because I seriously can't watch it. It looks somehow wrong or something.

I too LOVE the cover. Love. It. I can't remember the artist's name, but I recognize his style. He's got illustrations in many of the current line of D&D books. Love his (or her) stuff!

 

[Dire Bare]

Said it before, and I'll say it here: "Not everything needs to be D20."

No, not everything has to be d20. But everything also doesn't have to be NOT d20.

d20 is a versatile rulset that works for many games. It's also the most popular ruleset on the market (no data to back that up, but try and deny it).

You're right when you say the Storyteller system works just fine for the WoD. However, the d20 system will work fine too, this is a variant WoD setting in addition to being a variant ruleset, and . . . people WANT it!

This is absolute genius on White Wolf's part to release this, pairing the WoD and one of the biggest names in gaming today. Brilliant! They've sold a copy to me.

If you don't feel d20 and WoD mix well for you, that's fine. But don't poop on our parade for those of us who feel this is an exciting product.

 

[Kae'Yoss]

I know, I've really got to give Elements of Magic a chance, some day.

Yes you do! Do it today (they're in need of some extra funds, anyway, so get yourself a hell of a magic system and help these boards at the same time!)

I'm not familiar with the current Storyteller WoD, but the original was set just before the apocalypse. Apocalypse with a capital "A" all biblical style. Monte's version seems quite post-apocalyptic. Can't wait.

Just before, and then during. A certain EN World poster that is involved in this very thread was involved in that part of the old World of Darkness. (let me give you a hint: His name sounds kinda vampirish)

The End actually arrived - werewolves called it Apocalypse, vampires Gehenna, and so on.

The new WoD doesn't have those kinds of portents built in.

 

[paradox42]

I find it interesting that they're including demons (Demon: the Fallen returns), but not Changelings or Wraiths. Maybe they are in there, and WW just didn't feel they were important enough to advertise their presence.

And regarding the Inconnu, there was that one supplement for Vampire: the Masquerade right before Gehenna (I've forgotten the name, and don't have a copy myself, but had a chance to read through somebody else's) that took the PCs to the home of the Inconnu sect, and revealed there that they apparently worship or are closely tied to a malevolent spirit-being. Now, I think Demon supplements hinted that that was one of the Earthbound, and in the supplement itself it's hinted that it could just be a Methuselah or Antediluvian, but who's to say it wasn't a true Lovecraftian Horror that merely lent its name to the vampire sect? If that's the case, then we have our tie to the old World of Darkness and this truly is a "what comes next" for the setting blown up with the Time of Judgment.

I'll definitely plan to pick up a copy at Gen Con if I can snag one.

 

[Shining Dragon]

Interesting.

I like the work of the artist who did the cover so that's a bonus in my mind.

The Iconnu? That is from the old Vampire: The Masquerade game (what people now call the Old World of Darkness).

The setting as described bears no resemblance to the old or new games. I know I'll flick through it at the local game store. The $50 price tag really puts me off (it'll be over $90 AUD despite the better exchange rates dictating that it should really be closer to $65).

But if its pretty, self-contained and deals with Awakened magic nicely then I may get it.

 

[Kae'Yoss]

If that's the case, then we have our tie to the old World of Darkness and this truly is a "what comes next" for the setting blown up with the Time of Judgment.

Doesn't sound like it. The part about the wall of reality becoming thin so supernaturalness seeps into our world doesn't sound like vampires and the bunch having been there before this WoD's Ragnarok.

 

[Psion]

Said it before, and I'll say it here: "Not everything needs to be D20."

Fortunately, you don't need to buy everything.

nWoD is out there. Those who like the storyteller style dice pool system should be happy with it... it's a fine system. Nothing is being denied them.

But obviously, this book is intended for a slightly different audience. Sorry you aren't in it.

 

[Moon-Lancer]

This book sounds awesome. Just what i needed to get interested in wod. I loved the vampire games for the computer. I really like d20, and am not a big fan of dice pools so i think I'm this books target audience.