Dragonlance More DRAGONLANCE Information: Kender, Battles, W&H's Novels, & More!

In addition to the official videos announcing Dragonlance releases for late 2022, I got to talk to talk to the D&D team and get a few more details not in the public D&D Direct event.

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  • Because Dragonlance is a setting about war, Ray Winninger, Executive Producer of Dungeons & Dragons, was asked if Dragonlance: Shadow of the Dragon Queen would have large-scale combat rules. He said that they would in an broad abstract form. The board game or battle game Dragonlance: Warriors of Krynn is actually focused on large-scale combat and can be played independently or RPG players could switch to Warriors of Krynn for their big combat scenes, including porting in their characters and then switch back to the RPG after the battle. So the RPG adventure can be played alone, the board game can be played alone or they can be combined, depending upon the group's preference.
  • Dragonlance: Warriors of Krynn is a cooperative game.
  • When asked if Dragonlance: Warriors of Krynn could be used for large-scale battles in other D&D settings Winninger said it was designed with that idea in mind. However, if Dragonlance: Warriors of Krynn is poplar they'll consider making more customized, large-scale combat board games for other settings.
  • Dragonlance: Shadow of the Dragon Queen is a brand new story, independent of the upcoming novel, Dragonlance: Dragons of Deceit. Winninger said that Margaret Weis and Tracy Hickman are telling their own story set in Krynn while Dragonlance: Shadow of the Dragon Queen is a different story set in Krynn and is blazing a trail to help players create their own stories in Krynn. So Dragonlance: Shadow of the Dragon Queen and Dragons of Deceit are both set in the same world but different stories.
  • There will be some cameos from old Dragonlance characters, especially villains, in Dragonlance: Shadow of the Dragon Queen.
  • Price points for Dragonlance: Warriors of Krynn and Dragonlance: Shadow of the Dragon Queen are not finalized yet.
  • When asked about player races for Dragonlance: Shadow of the Dragon Queen – especially Kender – Winninger said that Kender have gotten a good reception from the Unearthed Arcana play test but they're making some tweaks. Yes, Kender will be an option. He said the play test material gives hints as to what playable races it will have but would not mention to confirm any specifically beyond Kender.
 
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Beth Rimmels

Beth Rimmels

Helena Real

Dame of Solamnia (she/her)
Although I've been a long time fan of Dragonlance—and everything within it, warts and all—I recognize that Kender have been and are potentially problematic. In my mind, they are the same as the now-forgotten "Lawful Stupid" paladins of old.

What Wizards did in that case in 5E—removing alignment restriction from the class—was exactly what was needed. I don't think those are a problem anymore!

As such, I hope that any changes to the Kender can make it so everybody can enjoy them at their tables. They make such amazing characters when done right, in my experience!
 
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Not true - the warforged were also in the Next playtest, and they didn't make it into the PHB. (Though they did make it into 5E years before kender did.)
Was that the weird 3 subrace Warforged where the scout one was far and away better than the other two? Because I recall that one getting bad flack at the time for that
 

JEB

Legend
Was that the weird 3 subrace Warforged where the scout one was far and away better than the other two? Because I recall that one getting bad flack at the time for that
I don't think so? Looking at the last playtest document, it looks pretty close to the one that appeared in UA after 5E was released.
 

Blackwarder

Adventurer
Personally I’m pretty sure the Adventure is going to be as meh as the rest of WotC line over the last year and a half and the so called “war-game” is going to be a derivative piece of money grubbing crap.

i hope I’m wrong but I’ve lost all faith on WotC over the last couple if years.
 





Parmandur

Book-Friend
Hmm. So the mass combat rules are a separate board game? That was lame when they did it with BATTLESYSTEM and it's lame now.
Well, the D&D combat system is a tactical wargame, not a strategic one.a different scale calls for different systems. They've been mulling hiw to do strategic level combat for the entire existence of 5E, and I'm intrigued to see what they have in the box.
 



So why are Baker and Daviau the perfect designers for this project? Well, both have had a lot of experience working in the genre of wargames. They share excellent design credits on the Risk franchise, for instance. Baker, on the other hand, is the designer behind Battle Masters, a sprawling tabletop wargame using 28 mm miniatures and a massive plastic playmat. Daviau of course is the creator of the legacy system, which creates board games that change every time you play them.

But Daviau is also one of the co-founders of Restoration Games, a company that specializes in resurrecting older games and giving them new life. Expect him to go back to the original source material to bring forward as much of that excellent TSR design work as possible.

 

"He said the play test material gives hints as to what playable races it will have but would not mention to confirm any specifically beyond Kender."

I've reread the UA and besides the obvious Kender I saw no hints as to other races, have any of you seen hints in the UA about other Dragonlance races?
 

Parmandur

Book-Friend
"He said the play test material gives hints as to what playable races it will have but would not mention to confirm any specifically beyond Kender."

I've reread the UA and besides the obvious Kender I saw no hints as to other races, have any of you seen hints in the UA about other Dragonlance races?
I'll wager they reprint the Fizban's Dragonborn, and maybe Goliaths and/or Firbolg gor "Ogres."
 


"He said the play test material gives hints as to what playable races it will have but would not mention to confirm any specifically beyond Kender."

I've reread the UA and besides the obvious Kender I saw no hints as to other races, have any of you seen hints in the UA about other Dragonlance races?
It's an adventure, not a setting book. I can't see it having much in the way of character options beyond those we already know about. The first dragonlance product published only had kender.

The will probably be some setting specific cultural info on qualinesti elves etc. There is an outside chance they include lineages for some PHB races as a 5.5 head start.
I'll wager they reprint the Fizban's Dragonborn, and maybe Goliaths and/or Firbolg gor "Ogres."
Minotaurs would be a more setting appropriate "big guy" lineage. I don't think there will be space for a much of this kind of thing though.
 


Something else just occurred to me. With everyone getting bonus feats at 1st and 4th level, it might be signs that the variant human is toast. And the standard human doesn't fit the Tasha's paradigm. So maybe "the new lineage hinted at by the UA" is human?

Or maybe he just meant a list of what races are not excluded by the setting,
 
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Parmandur

Book-Friend
Something else just occurred to me. With everyone getting bonus feats at 1st and 4th level, it might be signs that the variant human is toast. And the standard human doesn't fit the Tasha's paradigm. So maybe "the new lineage hinted at by the UA" is human?

Or maybe he just meant a list of what races are not excluded by the setting,
I'd actually think the opposite: if they bring Feats into full core rules, the Variant Human may just become "standard Human."
 

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