MorningStar-First Thoughts

I've been reading some more through the book.

While the different racial types didnt appeal too much to me (and the Bloodfed mercanitle halflings reminded me of Exclipse Caste Exalted), there were two things that looked very interesting.

Firstly there was the signature regions of magical affinity- reminiscent of one of my favourite games 'Ars Magicas' Arts and Regios. Basically when in an appropriate regio (casting Fireball in an Ignam signature area, or Demon summoning in a Profane area), then your spell save DC goes up and free metamagic feats are ennabled. Opposing magics to the regio (like Aquam spells in a Ignam area) or 'counter signatures' are treated as if the caster was a lower level, to the point where the caster cannot use their highest level spells since they dont have effective access to them. The psychological and environmental impacts of those areas were also nicely discussed, including the dreaded point when the signature level reaches 'Total' and reality begins to break down a bit.

Secondly there was a great prestige class that really grabbed me- the Living Canticle, for those spellcasters directly touched by the Morningstar Prophecy/entity at some point in their lives. Part of their mystery is that once affected, their alignments are no longer detectable by any means. To my this really added to the unknowability of the Prophecy- that in many ways it is beyond Good and Evil, but rather it is and that is it.

Their foresight power (in which the player goes through their daily spell with the GM and the GM tells them if the spell will be useful that day (though not how useful it would be) gains points for being an original class ability. But I also foresee problems for the GM not being able to secondguess all the players decisions and being surprised himself.

Could you tell us a little more about the Prophecy Mr Kennan? As presented I'm still a bit mystified about it. It is a prophecy of doom, yets makes itself known to all the peoples of Thraxis, presumably letting them attempt to thwart it. When they do thwart it, the prophecy changes its verses. So does this make it some sort of Watchmanesque doomsday clock that the heroes have to keep pushing back, one minute at a time? Or is it something older than the gods, more eternal than the divine, there to mystify the world? Where does it come from, and why does it act the way that it does?

Thx.

Steve
 

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SJE said:
I've been reading some more through the book.

While the different racial types didnt appeal too much to me (and the Bloodfed mercanitle halflings reminded me of Exclipse Caste Exalted), there were two things that looked very interesting.

Firstly there was the signature regions of magical affinity- reminiscent of one of my favourite games 'Ars Magicas' Arts and Regios. Basically when in an appropriate regio (casting Fireball in an Ignam signature area, or Demon summoning in a Profane area), then your spell save DC goes up and free metamagic feats are ennabled. Opposing magics to the regio (like Aquam spells in a Ignam area) or 'counter signatures' are treated as if the caster was a lower level, to the point where the caster cannot use their highest level spells since they dont have effective access to them. The psychological and environmental impacts of those areas were also nicely discussed, including the dreaded point when the signature level reaches 'Total' and reality begins to break down a bit.

Secondly there was a great prestige class that really grabbed me- the Living Canticle, for those spellcasters directly touched by the Morningstar Prophecy/entity at some point in their lives. Part of their mystery is that once affected, their alignments are no longer detectable by any means. To my this really added to the unknowability of the Prophecy- that in many ways it is beyond Good and Evil, but rather it is and that is it.

Their foresight power (in which the player goes through their daily spell with the GM and the GM tells them if the spell will be useful that day (though not how useful it would be) gains points for being an original class ability. But I also foresee problems for the GM not being able to secondguess all the players decisions and being surprised himself.

Could you tell us a little more about the Prophecy Mr Kennan? As presented I'm still a bit mystified about it. It is a prophecy of doom, yets makes itself known to all the peoples of Thraxis, presumably letting them attempt to thwart it. When they do thwart it, the prophecy changes its verses. So does this make it some sort of Watchmanesque doomsday clock that the heroes have to keep pushing back, one minute at a time? Or is it something older than the gods, more eternal than the divine, there to mystify the world? Where does it come from, and why does it act the way that it does?

Thx.

Steve

I've never seen Exalted... but that's interesting that I had a similar idea.

As for the Morning Star Apostle class and their Foreknowledge ability; For NPCs the proper spells can be grandfathered into the character as the situation arises, and for PCs, I would hope the the GM would have a general idea of where the adventure is heading. If not, you might allow a Morning Star Apostle PC to leave a few slots open and pick the spells as needed, when the first hint of what's going on in the adventure becomes obvious, but not in combat etc.

If you like the Morning Star Apostle, I think you'll really like the 'Scriven' PrC... a 10 level advancement of another angle on the Canticle's power. These Characters have their flesh engraved with the Living Verse...

I can't lay all my cards out on the table regarding the Canticle, but the clues are in the book. As I've said you have everything you need to solve the question... the Whole setting is based around the struggle behind the Canticle. I shall say no more; I'm not supposed to blatantly reveal anything yet, and I think part of the fun is in the guessing anyway.
 
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Another thing that I can talk about is that while the Canticle can be seen as a metaplot, I prefer to see it as a tool to set the mood. The Empires are flourishing; but the bloom is beginning to fade from the rose, so to speak.

The Canticle may be good, evil or neutral; and I think that many GMs will decide for themselves, or put the pieces together. Yes, the tone in the book is sinister, but who in the Setting is to say for sure what the motivations of the Canticle are? What mortals see as evil may be for the greater good, or maybe not.
 

I hope this doesn't come across as offensive, but --
Can I just ask- why the names missing vowels like 'Lrean' or 'Hrum'? Was there a design choice made there?

My trouble with such names is that I find them tremendously difficult to pronounce properly. I presume that the reason for missing the vowels is to empahsise their alieness of their people, but does this make up for the fact that the PC's cant pronounce the name of their arch-enemy without arguments and silliness?
-- sounds more like you have a very provincial gaming group rather than the setting has a problem. Neither of those are particularly unusual consonant combinations in a very wide variety of real languages.
 
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SJE said:
Can I just ask- why the names missing vowels like 'Lrean' or 'Hrum'?

They are not "missing vowels", rather they contain consonant clusters not allowed by the rules of English. Many languages allow consonant clusters that you can't have in English. For example, in Greek the "p" at the beginning of words such as "psychology" and "pneumonia" is actually pronounced.
 

Obviously the use of syllables(sp) and other ways words are pronounced have lessened in todays "English" class room. (Perhaps I should say language class)
 



shadow said:
For example, in Greek the "p" at the beginning of words such as "psychology" and "pneumonia" is actually pronounced.

You mean you don't pronounce those? :confused:

Pthat psucks,

M "channeling hong" irth
 

The meta-plot of the Canticle sounds interesting, but as a DM, if there is a meta-plot behind the whole campaign, and I can't know it for months/years as it is revealed in multiple books, how do I run a campaign there? (yes, I know that is a bad sentence)

This very question has kept me from buying several books over the years that looked interesting, and will likely keep me from buying this one. I get how a company may feel that it will get me to buy more books, but it actually gets me to buy less.
 

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