Most powerful undead?

[green slime]

Lots of similar ideas...

How about an advanced ghost (with sorcerer levels), with the malevolence ability and has taken over the body of the king?

This way, the undead will not even appear undead at all...

 

[Dark Jezter]

It's hard to top a demilich when you want epic level undead evilness.

You could also have a great red wyrm dracolich.

 

[vulcan_idic]

It's hard to top a demilich when you want epic level undead evilness.

You could also have a great red wyrm dracolich.

What about a demidracolich?

 

[Incenjucar]

Liches. Ghosts. Mummies. eh.

Make up something new.

Maybe some sort of undead that draws the flesh off of other beings to replenish itself and give it strength, while its 'true form' is basically blackened bones that ooze shadow-like ichor, while the undead's 'heart', a sparking black crystal, is molded on to its interior with steel and obsidian. If seperated, the crystal tries to take over whomever holds it...

Maybe it can merge with other undead for a period of time, like some sort of living template. Maybe it can merge with living creatures, but turns them in to undead in time, much like how the crystaline heart creates host bodies.

But a lich? fft.

 

[Raylis]

An undead campaign would be interesting, although what would the motivation for players be? Ghouls, Ghasts and the like only want to eat people, vampire PCs would need to constantly feed on the living, forcing them to leave the country or to hang around in the areas where 5% of the population are there for food, and most incorporal undead don't work well together, and zombie and skeletons are mindless. As for a King, instead of going with a Lich or a Vampire (classic undead) why not go for an advanced wight? They're fairly intelligent, don't need and sustinence and anybody can be made into one (thanks to the create spawn ability). Or for a different twist have the ruler of the nation not be undead at all, rather a c'onstruct with a special quality that whomever it slays arises as an undead...it could be continueing a dead Necromancer's work, following its last orders.

Just my two coppers

 

[Incenjucar]

Necropoli (cities populated by undead) are actually very popular, as are undead characters (2e's Ravenloft had an entire hardcover devoted to the concept). I've always liked the idea of Bob the Friendly Skeleton Warrior. Which reminds me, they even had a CARTOON based on the idea of undead characters.. and a half-undead character...

 

[PallidPatience]

Actually, I'm in an evil undead campaign right now that's really little different from a normal evil campaign (excepting, of course, the special weaknesses of those of us who ARE undead). We're using Bone and Corpse from the BoVD, and one of us is heading for Lich, so it's working well. Our motivation is to empty the city of the Good empire's power, and to control it for ourselves. So it's not that bad. I wouldn't think that playing a Ghoul, Ghast, Wight, or Vampire would be that much harder (excepting the weakness to sunlight, in the latter case).

Liches are classic, Vampires are better for "that eccentric noble" or the like, Wights are nice... An advanced or classed Ghast would make a cool king, as would a Nightwalker. What about a Shadow, Spectre, or Ghost?

 

[Calico_Jack73]

Gotta go with the Lich. For added fluff to your NPC you ought to check out Van Rickten's Guide to the Lich.

 

[Gorilla726]

Actually, I'm in an evil undead campaign right now that's really little different from a normal evil campaign (excepting, of course, the special weaknesses of those of us who ARE undead). We're using Bone and Corpse from the BoVD, and one of us is heading for Lich, so it's working well. Our motivation is to empty the city of the Good empire's power, and to control it for ourselves. So it's not that bad. I wouldn't think that playing a Ghoul, Ghast, Wight, or Vampire would be that much harder (excepting the weakness to sunlight, in the latter case).

Liches are classic, Vampires are better for "that eccentric noble" or the like, Wights are nice... An advanced or classed Ghast would make a cool king, as would a Nightwalker. What about a Shadow, Spectre, or Ghost?

Hey, do you think that you could send me some more information on your campaign? I'm trying to get any ideas from anywhere I can. I would really appreciate it. My e-mail adderess is deathfromabove@musician.org Thanks!

Gorilla

 

[Pants]

So what exactly makes this vampire evil?

He's masquerading as his own grandson, whom I believe he 'replaced.' He also did some nasty things in order to become a vampire.

I read this short story once about this perfect city where everyone was happy and life was good. But all of it was based on the fact that one person was abused by everyone. Everyone knew about it and nobody talked about it. They would spit at him when they walked by, kick him, whatever.

It was a pretty neat idea. Kinda creepy.

'Those Who Walk Away from Omelas' by Ursula LeGuin was the name of the story, I believe.