Moving with Hit/Effect line?

[Alukane]

Yes. Go to your PHS and read the "movement effects" box on p. 219 and all will be clear.

The only exception I can think of to this is when the rules say "must" - for example, a chaos sorceror rolling a 1 and pushing all nearby creatures.

Well, that and effects that have you move to a place (for example, move adjascent to) rather than a distance - but those are also dealt with in the above mentioned box.

Thanks Dr_Ruminahui...Maybe retraining Thunderwave wasn't a good idea...

 

[Dr_Ruminahui]

From my own experience DMing a group with a thunderwave using orb wizard, and a taclord with thrunderwave via wizard multi-class, its an awesome power.

Though, it does perhaps encourage the wizard to be up closer to the melee monsters than is perhaps in his best interest...

And you're welcome, glad to help - fell free to click on the "give XP" button.

 

[DracoSuave]

From my own experience DMing a group with a thunderwave using orb wizard, and a taclord with thrunderwave via wizard multi-class, its an awesome power.

Though, it does perhaps encourage the wizard to be up closer to the melee monsters than is perhaps in his best interest...

And you're welcome, glad to help - fell free to click on the "give XP" button.

Well... wizards aren't -exactly- made of paper any more.

And the best part about Thunderwave is that even if you -start- too close for comfort, you don't END too close for comfort.

 

[Dr_Ruminahui]

Fair enough (though you don't always hit everyone)... and I did say it was an awesome power - it's just that he races the melee ranger to be the first out of surges.

Even with that, though, its still my favourite wizard at will, at least watching it from the DM's side of the table.

 

[Alukane]

From my own experience DMing a group with a thunderwave using orb wizard, and a taclord with thrunderwave via wizard multi-class, its an awesome power.

Though, it does perhaps encourage the wizard to be up closer to the melee monsters than is perhaps in his best interest...

And you're welcome, glad to help - fell free to click on the "give XP" button.

It wasn't matter of interest...It's because I have 3 allies in melee, and I often couldn't use it because of them...so I took scorching burst - ray of frost and arcane fire - wintertouched as feats, next level I'm taking winter's wrath to do: scorching burst - action point - winter's wrath. I understood later that I won't accomplish well my role with this build but now I'll play the better I can with this...

PS: Sorry for the OT

 

[DracoSuave]

One thing to note with fading strike:

It says shift x squares to y position.

If you cannot shift to a square non-adjacent to the foe (yeah, not likely, but it could happen if you're in a corner, and the enemy is adjacent to you diagonally) then you cannot shift at all.