Multi Class Skill Points?

[Demoquin]

I am making a back up character ahead of time in case something bad happens to my main character.

The character in quiestion will have Rogue and Fighter levels. I am starting at lvl 4

Human
Rog 1 Ftr 3 59 skill points

STR 14
DEX 18
CON 18
INT 14
WIS 12
CHA 10


At first level i will have 44 skill points. then + 5 for each Fighter level. Do i have all skills available to me with the two classes or do i have only the skills of the class i am leveling atm?

 

[Sithobi1]

The maximum skills are determined by any of your classes, but the skill point cost is determined by your current cost. For example, Disable Device would cost you 2 points to gain 1 rank for every level in Fighter, but you can get it up to 7.

 

[Quinnman]

The maximum skills are determined by any of your classes, but the skill point cost is determined by your current cost. For example, Disable Device would cost you 2 points to gain 1 rank for every level in Fighter, but you can get it up to 7.

Unless there is an errata of which I don´t know, then you are incorrect...

From the SRD:

Skills: If a skill is a class skill for any of a multiclass character’s classes, then character level determines a skill’s maximum rank. (The maximum rank for a class skill is 3 + character level.)

Nowhere does it say anything about having to pay double for "cross"-class skills...

So, to answer the original question... you have all your class-skills (for both classes!) available to you...

 

[Sithobi1]

Look again:

If you buy a class skill, your character gets 1 rank (equal to a +1 bonus on checks with that skill) for each skill point. If you buy other classes’ skills (cross-class skills), you get ½ rank per skill point.

Edit: also, the danger of taking things out of context:

Regardless of whether a skill is purchased as a class skill or a cross-class skill, if it is a class skill for any of your classes, your maximum rank equals your total character level + 3.

Therefore, you must purchase some skills as cross-class skills even when they are the class skills of one of your other classes.

 

[rhammer2]

Unless there is an errata of which I don´t know, then you are incorrect...

From the SRD:


Nowhere does it say anything about having to pay double for "cross"-class skills...

So, to answer the original question... you have all your class-skills (for both classes!) available to you...

Sithobi1 is correct... when the level you are adding to your character is the fighter class, you must spend skill points as a fighter, so disable device costs 2 points per rank.

I use a house rule so that all ranks of any class skill on any of a character's classes always is payed for at the 1 to 1 rate, but that is a house rule.

 

[Thanee]

You have to learn skills according to your *current* class, that is, the 5 skill points have to be spent as a Fighter.

The *only* advantage you have from being a Rogue is, that your *maximum rank* in all the Rogue skills is determined in the most favorable way.

For example...

Search is a Rogue class skill and a Fighter cross-class skill.

At 1st level (Rogue) you have 4 ranks in it.

At 2nd level (Fighter) you can have a maximum of 5 ranks in it, since it is a class skill for *any* class you have.
However, since you leveled as a Fighter, and Search is a cross-class skill for Fighters, you only gain half a rank for every skill point, so you would have to spend 2 skill points in order to raise Search from 4 to 5.

So, skill points are spend as normal for a character of that class, only the maximum ranks are affected by multiclassing.

Bye
Thanee

 

[Demoquin]

Ok i know that i can only have a certain number of skills (lvl +3 max)


I was asking about say for Hide i put 4 ranks at first level. Then Fighter lvl up. Is Hide still a class skill since i essentially was able to get it before?

Could you post from source? so i know it is official

 

[Thanee]

Hide is class skill for the Rogue and cross-class skill for the Fighter. Multiclassing does not change that in any way. The *only* thing, that is changed, is the allowed maximum ranks.

You do not have one class skill list for your *character*, but rather a seperate list for every *class* your character has.

Bye
Thanee

 

[Thanee]

Here are some quotes from the SRD:

Each skill point you spend on a class skill gets you 1 rank in that skill. Class skills are the skills found on your character’s class skill list. Each skill point you spend on a cross-class skill gets your character 1/2 rank in that skill. Cross-class skills are skills not found on your character’s class skill list. (Half ranks do not improve your skill check, but two 1/2 ranks make 1 rank.) You can’t save skill points to spend later.

The maximum rank in a class skill is the character’s level + 3. If it’s a cross-class skill, the maximum rank is half of that number (do not round up or down).

Regardless of whether a skill is purchased as a class skill or a cross-class skill, if it is a class skill for any of your classes, your maximum rank equals your total character level + 3.

Skills: If a skill is a class skill for any of a multiclass character’s classes, then character level determines a skill’s maximum rank. (The maximum rank for a class skill is 3 + character level.)

If a skill is not a class skill for any of a multiclass character’s classes, the maximum rank for that skill is one-half the maximum for a class skill.

Bye
Thanee

 

[Demoquin]

Thanks Thanee ... i knew i liked you for something