multi-classing from day 1

[VonRichthofen]

In case of doubt: Go rogue first. You'll get a lot more skill points (24) and 1 extra hitpoint (average) with rogue 1/wizard 1 than with wizard 1/rogue 1...

 

[Darklone]

Assuming you give full hitpoints for first level... 2 hitpoints.

 

[Nonlethal Force]

No, 1 extra HP.

Rouge 1 / Wizard 1 gets 6 + 2.5 (avg for wizard) + CON = 8.5 + CON

Wizard 1 / Rogue 1 gets 4 + 3.5 (avg for rogue) + CON = 7.5 + CON

1 extra in total. 2 extra at first level, but the law of averages tells us that by level 2 it'll only be 1 extra.

 

[rgard]

Hi all,

I am a newbie to the fullest degree when it comes to experience with 3.5, even though I've been playing for awhile. In my group, we focus more on fun and less on rules, so if a rule gets in the way, we toss in on the spot, and our group has never had more than a VERY mild discussion on rules interpretations anyway. Great group, btw .

Having said that, why can't I find the ruling behind how you start a 1st level class in BOTH classes when multi-classing? I recall rules in the past that allowed for being 1/2 level in each class, at first level. Do those exist in 3.5? And if not, how do you handle a multi-class character at first level? Can there even be such a thing in 3.5?

I did this in a Star Wars campaign. It works if you do the math. Write up what the character would be at 2nd level; one level in each class you want. Keep in mind that this second level write up needs to identify which class came first as your hit points and skill points vary by class. Then divide up the total skills and hit points by level. Then do the same for the BAB and saves. For your spells, I would have the Cantrips taken at character level 1 and your 1st level spell slots arrive at character level 2.

Email me off line and if you want I'll write up the character for you.

Thanks,
Rich

 

[VonRichthofen]

Assuming you give full hitpoints for first level... 2 hitpoints.

Nice try, Darklone!

 

[Lee's Fortune]

I did this in a Star Wars campaign. It works if you do the math. Write up what the character would be at 2nd level; one level in each class you want. Keep in mind that this second level write up needs to identify which class came first as your hit points and skill points vary by class. Then divide up the total skills and hit points by level. Then do the same for the BAB and saves. For your spells, I would have the Cantrips taken at character level 1 and your 1st level spell slots arrive at character level 2.

Email me off line and if you want I'll write up the character for you.

Thanks,
Rich

Hey Rich,

Thanks a ton for this! I can dredge through the work, though, but thanks for the offer of helping.

 

[Darklone]

Nice try, Darklone!

Not trying means losing

I have to drink better whiskey next time.

Considering how much I like low level campaigns, these apprentice level rules are missed thorougly by my group.

 

[Ranger REG]

Hi all,

I am a newbie to the fullest degree when it comes to experience with 3.5, even though I've been playing for awhile. In my group, we focus more on fun and less on rules, so if a rule gets in the way, we toss in on the spot, and our group has never had more than a VERY mild discussion on rules interpretations anyway. Great group, btw .

Having said that, why can't I find the ruling behind how you start a 1st level class in BOTH classes when multi-classing? I recall rules in the past that allowed for being 1/2 level in each class, at first level. Do those exist in 3.5? And if not, how do you handle a multi-class character at first level? Can there even be such a thing in 3.5?

The apprentice-level rule was dropped as it was unnecessary and not used by many gamers. Besides, we would need apprentice level for all the other base classes.

You could make them, but they would have to be houseruled.

 

[Lee's Fortune]

The apprentice-level rule was dropped as it was unnecessary and not used by many gamers. Besides, we would need apprentice level for all the other base classes.

You could make them, but they would have to be houseruled.

So this means learning arcane arts and sneakcraft at the same time isn't possible for a first level character? You are right though, it would have to be a house rule

 

[Ranger REG]

So this means learning arcane arts and sneakcraft at the same time isn't possible for a first level character? You are right though, it would have to be a house rule

Why? You can't get past level 1?