Multiclassing to the same class...twice?

[boar]

There are two avenger multi-class feats, both of which grant a single encounter use of oath of enmity. One lasts till the end of your next turn; the other lasts until you hit the enemy. The character builder lets you take both. Can a character actually take both, or is this a bug in the character builder?

I'm inclined to say it's a bug because, by the rules, you're not allowed to take a multi-class feat for your own class -- and taking a multi-class feat for class X technically makes you a member of class X for all rules-related purposes. However, I wanted to check here before reporting the option as a bug.

If it's not a bug, then one might be tempted to do it in some cases -- low-accuracy characters might not mind spending two feats to get three (or more) double-rolls per encounter, for example.

 

[Mr. Teapot]

You are allowed to take as many multiclass feats as you want from the class you multiclassed into. There are several multiclass feats that wouldn't work at all under the restrictive interpretation you propose (ones that require other multiclass feats, mainly).

Note that there was errata for one of those Avenger MC feats, significantly weakening it in power. Still a fairly good deal, but not as awesome as it once was.

 

[Tony Vargas]

You cannot take a multiclass feat for your own class. However, you can take any number of Multiclass feats of a class you MC into. It is odd to take two feats that grant you the same class feature - in fact, it's odd for there to /be/ two such feats.

 

[Joshua Randall]

I think the intent of the rules is clear: you spend one and only one feat to multiclass into another class.

 

[malcolm_n]

I think the intent of the rules is clear: you spend one and only one feat to multiclass into another class.

You only "have" to spend one. You "can" spend as many as are available "as long as" you only choose them from one such class. Being a bard, of course, is exception to even that.

Play it how you want, but certainly, anybody playing in a WotC event, or in most games will likely run it properly.

 

[spayne]

you're not allowed to take a multi-class feat for your own class -- and taking a multi-class feat for class X technically makes you a member of class X for all rules-related purposes.

Multiclassing makes you count as the new class for meeting prerequisites. You do not count as that class for any other rules purpose.

Not only can you take multiple multiclass feats for the same class, the multiclass feats in Primal Power require you to do this.

Example:

Rampant Fury [Multiclass Barbarian]
Prerequisite: Berserker's Fury feat
Benefit: You gain the barbarian class feature Rampage.


Berserker's Fury is a Barbarian multiclass feat from PHB2.

 

[boar]

Thank you guys. Your responses were very clear and helpful. I always fancied myself a rules guru, but I didn't realize it was legit to multiclass that way. Awesome.