D&D 5E Multicllass problem..... is he right?

[seebs]

At first level he has AC 10 + DEX & WIS modifiers, now that he is MC he is using the base AC of 13 (from Draconic SORC) and then adding the MONK modifiers. So he is basing the AC on BASE 13 + DEX & WIS.

I understand now what everyone is talking about as far as he can choose one or the other.....
MONK: AC 10 + DEX & WIS ....OR SORC: AC 13+DEX

Thanks

Okay, yeah, he's doing it wrong. When you have multiple ways to calculate AC, you pick one or the other.

Monk: "Beginning at 1st level, while you are wearing no armor and not wielding a shield, your AC equals 10 + your Dexterity modifier + your Wisdom modifier."

Sorcerer: "When you aren't wearing armor, your AC equals 13 + your Dexterity modifier."

There is nothing in the rules to allow 13 + dex + wis. Monk doesn't say "add your wisdom to whatever armor class you computed some other way", it says "10 + dex + wis". Sorcerer doesn't say "replace 10 with 13 in your other AC calculations", it says "13 + dex".

 

[Awesome Adam]

RAW they don't stack in 5E. They would have stacked in 3E, and I think that is where a lot of confusion about this comes from.

As usual for D&D though, it's up to the dungeon master to decide what is right for his campaign.

I's up to you to decide how you want it to work. Don't let the player snowball, or bully you, into doing it any way other than how you think it should work.

In the interest of full disclosure: in the D&D campaign that I'm currently playing a Barbarian/Sorcerer who has the bonuses stacked. I actually argued against it working that way, but the DM felt it should work that way, so that's how it's going to work for this campaign.

 

[Azurewraith]

RAW they don't stack in 5E. They would have stacked in 3E, and I think that is where a lot of confusion about this comes from.

As usual for D&D though, it's up to the dungeon master to decide what is right for his campaign.

I's up to you to decide how you want it to work. Don't let the player snowball, or bully you, into doing it any way other than how you think it should work.

In the interest of full disclosure: in the D&D campaign that I'm currently playing a Barbarian/Sorcerer who has the bonuses stacked. I actually argued against it working that way, but the DM felt it should work that way, so that's how it's going to work for this campaign.

The barb source sounds awfull I mean its going to end up 13+5+5 that makes 23 AC... then add on d12 HD and then rage oh my!

 

[Awesome Adam]

The barb source sounds awfull I mean its going to end up 13+5+5 that makes 23 AC... then add on d12 HD and then rage oh my!

I think you meant AWESOME !!

It wouldn't work on every gaming table, but it works in ours.

He's actually a Barbarian 1 Ranger 1 FIghter 1 Cleric 1 Rogue 1 Sorcerer 1, and his AC is only 21 (13+3+5)

 

[Ovinomancer]

I think you meant AWESOME !!

It wouldn't work on every gaming table, but it works in ours.

He's actually a Barbarian 1 Ranger 1 FIghter 1 Cleric 1 Rogue 1 Sorcerer 1, and his AC is only 21 (13+3+5)

Curiously, how do you have a 20 stat with no ASIs?

EDIT: I expect the answer is 'rolled an 18 + racial bonus', but you know the old saw about assuming.

 

[Azurewraith]

I think you meant AWESOME !!

It wouldn't work on every gaming table, but it works in ours.

He's actually a Barbarian 1 Ranger 1 FIghter 1 Cleric 1 Rogue 1 Sorcerer 1, and his AC is only 21 (13+3+5)

Talk about split personality! I was more thinking balance issues with bounded accuracy and hhaving full damage out put

 

[Awesome Adam]

Curiously, how do you have a 20 stat with no ASIs?

EDIT: I expect the answer is 'rolled an 18 + racial bonus', but you know the old saw about assuming.

You are correct. Mountain Dwarf +2 STR & +2 CON.

We were rolling 4d6, discard the lowest. One guy "rolled" 3 18's while the DM was half paying attention, and insisted it was legit. I rolled mine in front of the DM, but left the 4th dice on a 6 for every roll. The DM and the players other than the first guy saw what I did, and did the same. The DM allowed it, mostly because it irked the "lucky" player, who wasn't paying attention to our rolls, and was upset about not being a special snowflake with 18's. Oddly enough, even with that advantage, no one else managed to roll 3 18's. I managed 2, and put them into STR and CON.

I originally wanted to make a Bear Aspect Barbarian, Moon Druid, Rouge Assasin, Grappler. Unfortuantely, once I started playing I realized how weak grappling is, compared to how I remembered in 3E, and that my Barbarians STR was higher in Dwarf form than it would be in Bear form, so I abandoned the concept.

Took a level of Fighter, thinking Battle Master.
Then Cleric of Knowledge, for the skills and spells, to help the party survive lost in the underdark.
Rangered up when I learned about Natural Explorer.
Rogue for expertise, and thought about assasin.
Got a sweet weapon I couldn't use with sneak attack, so dropped the assasin idea.
Had an argument about how Unarmed Defense and Dragonic Resiliance do not stack.
DM insisted they do stack.
Took a level of Sorcerer for Cantrips and +3 AC