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Loki_wolf said:
I think it was all this BS that made me turn away from christianity to begin with. all this "we are right and you are wrong" sort of crap. I look at those and think of how pitiful the author(s) is/are to create such garbage degrading other people simply b/c of what they believe or the game(s) they play. but that's just my $0.02 so you can do with it what you will.
In a way, Jack Chick's tracts are no different from a economic professor's paper depiciting communism as impossible, or popular media sentiment depicting drug addicts as tempermental, desperate people who have lost control of their lives.

His chief sin--which is shared in no way by most Christians, contrary to what you might have seen--is ignorance. He hasn't read the Koran, he hasn't played D&D, and he possibly hasn't even looked into the bible further back than King James.
 

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.... I had heard roumors that over-the-top viewpoints like this existed.. but nothing prepared me for the real thing! I'm speachless.... Can't we all just get along?
 

TO NEWBIE AND WOLFIX:

Welcome to the checkered history of Dungeons and Dragons, and RPG's in general. :)

This religious tract, while old, is an important reminder that in the early 1980's, there was a strong movement in the U.S. against the concept of role-playing games, due to fear that such games had morality-damaging lessons and ties to malicious occult groups that, in the end, didn't exist. Jack Chick's publications were one person's means of capitalizing on nagging doubts over something new, and unfounded fears of many parents and citizens that there was one, specific, demonstrable source that was trying to harm or brainwash their children.

20 years later, RPG's are far-more well-known than tracts of this nature, but they've become the equivalent among gamers of the childhood boogeyman. Those noises under the bed as a child we used to hear we can make fun of now as adults; Same with the anti-D&D paranoia of the 1980's - you'll find a lot of old-time gamers who know every word of "dark dungeons" the same way they know the Combat Matrix on Pages 74-75 of the 1st edition Dungeon Master's Guide. :)

It ain't pretty to look at, because you STILL have some fringe pockets who believe in the rumors, but it is worth a good laugh now and again, to see how accepted D&D is now versus then.
 

Ahh, I remember the first time I saw Dark Dungeons. They had them at the local Christian bookstore, along with some other Chick titles. They were selling them 2 for $0.25. I gave them to all my gaming buddies for Christmas.
 

Henry said:
...and unfounded fears of many parents and citizens that there was one, specific, demonstrable source that was trying to harm or brainwash their children.

You just say that because you didn't personally know Blackleaf. Sniff. I still miss her.

I'm also trying to figure out whether Debbie was playing a wizard, a cleric, a cleric named wizard, or a cleric/wizard named Elfstar. It's so confusing.
 

Alas poor Black Leaf she was taken from us all too soon...another victim of cruel DM railroading. When will they ever learn? *sigh*
 

Folks shouldn't paint all devout christians as biggoted jerks like the folks that chick writes to.
Back in highschool a shoolmate of mine was a seriously devout chrisitan who used to go to bible meetings and church retreats frequently, one time he came back with a whole handful of booklets incuding Dark Dungeons and we sat down at lunch and found the bulk of them pretty darn funny. Anyone capable of thinking finds most of such tracts questionable.
 

Ms. Frost?

Hmmm...I was half expecting Ms. Frost to be carrying a cat o' nine tails and wearing...never mind, been surfing where I shouldn't.
 

Piratecat said:
You just say that because you didn't personally know Blackleaf. Sniff. I still miss her.


know her? :o are you sure you should be saying that with your wife posting to this same site?
 


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