Slife said:
The grotesque inconsistency offends me. The whining over something he did offends me.
My first TPK
- Thread starter Doug McCrae
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The grotesque inconsistency offends me. The whining over something he did offends me.
Thurbane
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This reinforces my opinion that Confusion is somewhat problematic.
It's too easy to take a step back, wait for the inevitable all enemies attacking each other, then pick off the weakened survivors.
I found the same thing when I was DMing a group that included a mid-high level Beguiler. Groups of opponents who didn't have high will saves or SR were in real trouble, as he'd just keep hurling one after another. Oh, and Soild Fog every now and then just for good measure.
Of course, the easy fix is to start throwing undead and constructs at the party, but I don't like to run an "arms race" type of game. Also, my campaign setting is fairly clearly defined in encounter types, and I'm not suddenly going to have hordes of undead materialise in a storm of DM vengeance.
It's too easy to take a step back, wait for the inevitable all enemies attacking each other, then pick off the weakened survivors.
I found the same thing when I was DMing a group that included a mid-high level Beguiler. Groups of opponents who didn't have high will saves or SR were in real trouble, as he'd just keep hurling one after another. Oh, and Soild Fog every now and then just for good measure.
Of course, the easy fix is to start throwing undead and constructs at the party, but I don't like to run an "arms race" type of game. Also, my campaign setting is fairly clearly defined in encounter types, and I'm not suddenly going to have hordes of undead materialise in a storm of DM vengeance.
Lanefan said:
You got that right. Two sessions ago, I had a goblin ambush set up for the PCs - 4 2nd level PCs walked into a room of a dozen goblins waiting for them. The goblins were prepped and ready, but the PCs just waltzed over them, barely breaking a sweat. I rolled terribly as a DM and I hate to punish players for my bad rolling: I needed 14s to save vs some of their spells, so a 35% chance of saving on a d20 - yet, I failed 7 out of 8 saves, or a 12.5% rate. Then, I had 3 arrows on the party sorcerer, who was flat-footed and my rolls were 4,5,4. Meanwhile, the party cleric gets a crit with his staff and takes out the leader goblin...
but, then earlier in the session, I had what I thought was a routine easy encounter end up knocking one PC down to exactly 0 HP and another from 17 HP to 2.
Agamon
Adventurer
Lanefan said:
Sure does. A fight I thought would be a good one in my Age of Worms game last week ended up in a TPK. Considering they had hardly been challenged for 5 or 6 sessions made it that much stranger. And unlike the OP's fight, it wasn't even close. Of course, getting ambushed didn't help (that wasn't my fault, it wasn't truly an ambush, they knew it was coming, they just chose to stand their ground and wait for it). Neither did the really, really bad save rolls. Nor the fact that the leader of the NPC group was a cleric of Vecna that knew the PC's strengths and weaknesses (that, I maybe took too much advantage of...or maybe the players should stop being so predictable).
Ah well, hopefully the next party can get through the final three adventures without kicking it. I find it amusing that an encounter in the next adventure assumes that the PCs are still the original ones from 1st level. LOL! Not as many deaths in AoW as there were in RttToEE, but it's definitely a solid #2 on the Meatgrinder Campaign Hall of Fame.
BTW, I loves the Confusion. Makes me giggle with glee. But it's probably not the best idea vs a 3 PC party.
darthkilmor
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Doug McCrae said:
A druid could always happen upon their corpses and reincarnate them
