My first TPK
- Thread starter Doug McCrae
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Rabelais
First Post
pawsplay said:
Confusion
Hold Person/Monster
Maze
Time Hop (psioncs)
Vorpal weapons
Don't be silly. I get that characters die, I've had it happen to me, I've caused it as a DM. The powers mentioned are not overpowered, they're common as dirt, but overall they reduce the fun that I feel, or perhaps some others feel while playing the game.
Save or Die isn't exciting... it's gambling. If I want to play craps, I'll head to the Wynn, or the Venetian. If I want to play D&D, I'll play that.
Some of these, run 1/rd per level, some allow a save to elminate the effect (time hop etc...) but in a moderately high level game, say 10th level or so, a combat round can run a long time... 20 minutes even 30 or more. Let's say that I fail a save or two or three... that keeps me from playing for an hour or more? hmmmm.
If you want em in your game. no problem. Are there circumstances where those spells are in play in my game Absolutely... Will I ban those spells in my game? NO. I don't have to like them though.
roguerouge
First Post
Yanking the thread back on track, I'd say that it happens. Don't blame yourself: they had three characters with high will saves. Their cohort will now always devote a spell slot to spells that get rid of enchantments. If you never use things like enchantments and compulsions, it somewhat undercuts the classes that have good will saves anyway. (As a player, if I'm sure that the DM won't use charms and compulsions, I'll not cover that weakness, which makes my character slightly stronger than it should be.)
Use it to your advantage: they're high level characters who are going to be missed by their patrons. Let the patrons bring them back so as to have the players owe him a severe debt of gratitude. Or have the villains use neutral clerics to lure them back from death and let evil ensue.
Finally, you've neglected to tell us the most important bit: did the players have fun? Yes, high stakes playing can be fun and yes, anxiously waiting out confusion effects can be fun.
And getting to smack other characters without consequence? DEFINITELY fun.
Use it to your advantage: they're high level characters who are going to be missed by their patrons. Let the patrons bring them back so as to have the players owe him a severe debt of gratitude. Or have the villains use neutral clerics to lure them back from death and let evil ensue.
Finally, you've neglected to tell us the most important bit: did the players have fun? Yes, high stakes playing can be fun and yes, anxiously waiting out confusion effects can be fun.
And getting to smack other characters without consequence? DEFINITELY fun.
Goobermunch
Explorer
Rabelais said:
That's one of my pet peeves. I hate anything that interferes with the player's sense of agency over his or her character.
Just pisses me off. It's not fun at all.
--G
