My warlock wants to stab you in the eye!

[shadowguidex]

All we need is an exact, clear, inarguable definition of "different sources."

I'd suggest you instead try to learn some critical thinking skills - this is a pretty unambiguous rule unless you're trying to be gamey and create yourself an exploit.

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Thanks,
Dinkeldog/Moderator

 

[Boarstorm]

I'd suggest you instead try to learn some critical thinking skills - this is a pretty unambiguous rule unless you're trying to be gamey and create yourself an exploit.

For an unambiguous rule, there sure does seem to be a lot of confusion.

 

[James McMurray]

Yeah, I was the first to say the temp hp don't stack, so I'm definitely not looking to create myself an exploit. But I wouldn't go anywhere near saying its unambiguous.

 

[James McMurray]

My problem with them stacking in this instance* involves nightmares of being unable to send hordes of minions at the party because the Warlock will curse one, kill it, use his rod to curse the rest, and then bask in his umpteen temp hit points when the wizard fries them all.

* Apart from me feeling that it's RAI.

 

[GnomeWorks]

I'd suggest you instead try to learn some critical thinking skills - this is a pretty unambiguous rule unless you're trying to be gamey and create yourself an exploit.

Could you be a bit more of a jerk?

Please report posts like this, thanks.
--Dinkeldog/Moderator

 

[Hypersmurf]

I'd suggest you instead try to learn some critical thinking skills - this is a pretty unambiguous rule unless you're trying to be gamey and create yourself an exploit.

Well, consider a similar question on temporary hit points from the 3E Main FAQ:

How is the body feeder weapon quality supposed to work?

Do the temporary hit points from the weapon stack? The same question applies to mind feeder weapons and to spell effects, such as vampiric touch.

Temporary hit points from a body feeder weapon stack with each other, but not with temporary hit points from any other source. Likewise, temporary psionic points from a mind feeder weapon stack, but not with temporary psionic points from any other source.

In general, any effect that allows you to gain temporary hit points over time allows you to stack those points, but only those points. For example, if you use the vampiric touch spell, the temporary hit points you gain from that particular casting of the spell stack. They don’t stack with the temporary hit points you get from an aid spell, nor would the effects of two vampiric touch or aid spells stack. If you were to use two body feeder weapons (or two mind feeder weapons), you could not stack the temporary points from the two weapons.

So, in this answer, where the 3E FAQ says "Temporary hit points from any other source do not stack", it considers two uses of a single body feeder weapon to be not-different-sources, and the temporary hit points stack.

If this was the way that the 3E FAQ defined different sources, is it automatically gamey and exploitative to assume that two uses of a single class ability in 4E would, similarly, be considered to be not-different-sources?

Now, there are persistent rumours of a CustServ answer that says "Same Power = Same Source", which would let multiple THP from a single Pact power stack.

There's also this CustServ answer, which says the opposite.

-Hyp.

 

[Insignia]

So, in this answer, where the 3E FAQ says "Temporary hit points from any other source do not stack", it considers two uses of a single body feeder weapon to be not-different-sources, and the temporary hit points stack.

The same answer also states that two uses of Vampiric Touch *don't* stack. Cursing two people on separate rounds and then getting them killed is more akin to that, in my opinion.

 

[mithril]

Now, there are persistent rumours of a CustServ answer that says "Same Power = Same Source", which would let multiple THP from a single Pact power stack.

There's also this CustServ answer, which says the opposite.

-Hyp.

As the OP's DM, I promised to decide on the issue after reading the various arguments and evidence - and it looks like the link above is the most definitive official answer I've seen so far. Unless something else from CustServ shows up saying the opposite, I'll rule that the temporary hps don't stack, and only the higher number applies.

T.

 

[AGFlynn]

As the OP's DM, I promised to decide on the issue after reading the various arguments and evidence - and it looks like the link above is the most definitive official answer I've seen so far. Unless something else from CustServ shows up saying the opposite, I'll rule that the temporary hps don't stack, and only the higher number applies.

T.

And that's why I hate you, Tony.
Just kidding, I have come to agree with CustServ. In our first combat, you will recall, my warlock was able to nearly double his hit points.
That just does not make sense.