need a more powerful elven race

[krupintupple]

I'd just say these 'tolkienesque' elves are regular elves with the half-celestial template, except change the stat-changes as following:

Str +2, Dex +4, Con +2, Int +4, Wis +4, Cha +4.

...all for an +4 LA.

 

[Doug McCrae]

Use the stats for eladrins in the Monster Manual but remove the alternate form.

 

[MithrasRahl]

Drow minus the penalties?

 

[Whimsical]

My DM came up with a good solution. Because elves are long lived, the average level of an elf in an elf community is 10. So, lots of Commoner 10 elves around.

 

[Justin]

How about using Sepulchrave's Sidhe as a starting point? You'd probably want to drop the shadow template and perhaps replace the half-fiend template with half-celestial, as others have suggested using. Also, if it were me (and I'm not a DM), I'd probably modify them to be more druid-like than bard-like. (Hmm...what's the "green" equivalent of half-celestial?)

 

[Darklone]

You might simply give them the benefits of the racial paragon class without the HD, BAB, skills and saves. e.g. a +2 to Int, 2 caster levels plus for wizards and some more goodies.

Especially at first level, casting 2nd level spells is great while the benefits aren't too unbalancing later.

http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/races/racialParagonClasses.htm#elfParagon

 

[Sitara]

Just give them +2 in every stat.

 

[szilard]

You might simply give them the benefits of the racial paragon class without the HD, BAB, skills and saves. e.g. a +2 to Int, 2 caster levels plus for wizards and some more goodies.

Especially at first level, casting 2nd level spells is great while the benefits aren't too unbalancing later.

http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/races/racialParagonClasses.htm#elfParagon

...or just have them all start out as 3rd level Elf Paragons.

-Stuart

 

[Darklone]

...or just have them all start out as 3rd level Elf Paragons.

-Stuart

Yupp, but I wouldn't like the slowed progression for class levels afterwards.

 

[Drowbane]

My DM came up with a good solution. Because elves are long lived, the average level of an elf in an elf community is 10. So, lots of Commoner 10 elves around.

I have trouble with the notion of an "Elven Farmer". I can go with Experts, Warriors, and Adepts though.

Strangely, the only D&D races I would consider giving Commoner levels to are... humans & halflings.