Need hellp with character creation for an intractible DM

[Caeleddin]

Diirk - Thanks. I have some already.

What is expending a psionic focus?
Can you get more than one of it?
Do you have to get psionic focus every spell (that would mean full action casting at all times if you take a feat, longer if you don't)?
Is there an equivalent of silent and still (for the stealthy spellcasting) metamagic feats (I didn't see them at first glance, just something about suppressing the flashy effects, and how does that work)?
How does the speciality work? Does it mean if I choose one Discipline I can only ever choose "spells" from the Discipline?

 

[Goolpsy]

I Dont think there is all this need to go get upset about your DM
really...

if he have some campaign based restriction (i would be ok with it) He wont allow clerics.. k, only 1 sorc/wizard.. well also ok...

Then jsut choose another race^^

Iv'e often had worse restrictions.. Just make a cool fighter or something.. The Druid idea was great too, as its fun to play

 

[Caeleddin]

Goolpsy - Currently, I am more pissed with those arrogant donkeys than my DM.

 

[Diirk]

Diirk - Thanks. I have some already.

What is expending a psionic focus?
Can you get more than one of it?
Do you have to get psionic focus every spell (that would mean full action casting at all times if you take a feat, longer if you don't)?
Is there an equivalent of silent and still (for the stealthy spellcasting) metamagic feats (I didn't see them at first glance, just something about suppressing the flashy effects, and how does that work)?
How does the speciality work? Does it mean if I choose one Discipline I can only ever choose "spells" from the Discipline?

To be psionically focused is basically a state of mind.. as such you can only have 1 at once as you only have 1 mind However I think there's a feat that lets you use your psi-crystal for an additional psionic focus or something (Psicrystal Containment)
Certain feats/abilities require you either to be focused (eg Psionic Dodge) or to expend it (eg the Psionic Weapon chain of feats). If you just need to be focused, you can keep using said ability as much as you want. However if you're required to expend your focus to use an ability, its gone and you then need to refocus before you can use such an ability again.
Psionic 'spells' don't require you to be focused to cast unless the specifically say so. Its mainly used to fuel special feats/abilities. To regain your focus after you've used it, you need to meditate as a full-round action that provokes AoOs and make a DC 20 concentration check. However there's a feat that can speed that up to just a move action (Psionic Meditation)

I probably didn't explain it to well, You can read a bit about it under the concentration skill in the psionics section: http://www.systemreferencedocuments.org/35/sovelior_sage/psionicSkills.html#concentration and in the feats section.

For the silent/still stuff... don't worry ! Unlike spells you don't need to speak any words, or make any gestures. Its just an act of will to manifest a power. The displays its talking about are simply side effects. Like if you cast Mindthrust, in addition to damaging the target there'll be some sort of sound at the same time. You can suppress this side effect with a concentration check (noted in the psionic skills section under concentration), in which case bystanders will notice nothing (apart from the obvious, like you disappearing if you teleported away).

All Psions choose 1 area of specialty.. there's no such thing as a non-specialist psion. (Correct me if I'm wrong someone). You can learn all general psionic powers, in addition to powers within your specialty. There aren't many powers within the specialties, think of them more like cleric domains, except they draw from your normal power pool so you can cast them more than once each.

Only psions get these disciplines, wilders/psychic warriors etc have their own power lists and can't specialize further. If you want to learn a power thats not in a different discipline to the one you picked, or even from a different class entirely, you can do so with the Expanded Knowledge feat.

Hope that helps !

 

[boredgremlin]

here we go. I disagreed with you too. You ignored my post to attack someone else. So I will be clear, you are power gaming munchin. You want the class you want, the powers you want, everything else you want. You pissed and moaned about how bad your DM was. Sounds to me like all he did was limit clerics, too many wizards and stupid templates. If you cant figure out how to play a heroic character without some optional template then you need to go back to gaming 101. Many of us played RPG's for over 20 years without any stupid templates. I think you can manage it too.
Sounds like your just a goofy power gaming munchkin trying to one sidedly get everyone to aggree with you because your DM wouldnt let you munchkin his hard created game.
For the people who said to leave the game i have to agree. Get your munchkin but out of there and let other people game.

 

[Primitive Screwhead]

Bring in a better opinion..

Caeleddin:

Before you respond to BoredGremlins ill-timed post.. please read this.

The facts of the matter from *my* perspective:

New poster complains about limitations of DM in game, provides unclear presentation of the issues that are being complained about..
{A couple of issues that are 'not a problem' to you a couple posts later)
A number of sympathetic souls offer potential solutions.

The first solution you respond to is on page 2 of the thread. All previous replies are focused on the items your DM has already discounted.

It appears as if you desire those of us on the board to provide you ammunition for getting your character built the way you want, not discover a new potential for using what is available.

Now that you are pursuing a new potential, I suggest we all ignore the first page and a half of this thread and help you with the Psion deal.

I also suggest you clarify what parts of your character concept is pure fluff.

Finally, invite your DM to this thread. His/her input would be insightful.. and perhaps the community here can help your entire groups in its effort to find entertainement in this communal illusioon we call a game

For everyone: Munkin is a title that everyone here can lay claim to at least once in thier time playing these games. It is not immaturity but merely a phase gamers cycle through. Sometimes its a very entertaining phase
Using it as a swear word is innapropriate. If applied to you, and the shoe fits.. wear it with pride! Kinda like being called a Geek. {ya know, those people who sit in front of thier computers typing on message boards almost every single day? }

Anyway, back to your regularly scheduled thread.....

 

[Caeleddin]

Diirk - Thanks. That helps heaps. Nice to learn new things.


BoredGremlin - I didn't think that I had to address you to address the issues you raised, considering that both of the above idiots raised the same issues as you. Since you are too dense to realise that I did answer your points, allow me to answer them again. This time, please pay attention:

I was okay with the no clerics. I only briefly mantioned it as background information.

If you don't want too many wizards, ban them. I don't mind. What I DO mind is that he said he'll allow it and then later, when I said I wanted to play one, his response is "No, you end up with the same spells as XXX." That is a weak excuse. You, however, made up some fantasy where I must have this class, even though the TITLE of the thread is to ask for help making a character that would fit what my DM wants. Again, you are in your own little world here because I certainly am not on it.

You don't allow templates. Good on you. However, he is making a template up for me even as we speak and is trying to get me to be that template after I gave him the backstory and he played around with it without consulting me. Thus, you are once more in your own fantasy world (how appropriate given that this is a D&D forum).

Hmm... He took away the SoulKnife's ONLY advantage and you are saying it is a little bit. Sorry. You need a reality check. Also, while you are doing it, please note that I am NOT taking this class. I mentioned it as an example of how he is operating at the moment. I still consider the class more than a little sub-standard. Sputtering indignation is good only to fools that can't think for themselves.

He doesn't care about the family man. This part has been explained early my me. Allow me to repeat myself, since you are too blind to see it: "What really happened is that he wants to change my wife to a Celestial. However, that would mean that I would have a wife that would have knowledges of planes, arcana, whatever, and it would be wrong for her to keep quiet about things while her husband goes out to face them. So, she will be giving advice or warnings or whatever, and for that to happen, he wants me to take the Leadership feat. However, she is NOT a cohort (he made that clear also); she is an NPC under his total control. Again, I did not make the decision nor did I have any input in it."

He rolled the stats of three of us and not the other two. Again, you made an assumption and ran with it.

You sound like a terrible DM. You seem to like making things up and forcing people to participate in it (eg., my wife will divorce me, etc.) instead of letting your players develope their characters as they like. This is a classic case of DM vs Players, where the DM is out to get the players for his own amusement, regardless of whether the players like it or not.

Now that I have reviewed my answers, I wonder why I even bothered to answer. Nothing you have said is of any relevence to the topic at hand. Every answer is a repeat of something I have already said. Every accusation of yours is based on some flight of fantasy that you have created and run with. Every point of yours is a strawman argument. Come back when you are truly seeing what I am meaning instead of slapping on your own interpretation and crying your heart out. I don't feel pity for the stupid.

All I see are 3 insecure DMs jumping up and down trying to justify their own heavy-handedness by comparing themselves with my DM. I am glad you guys posted in this thread. It made me see that my DM is not as bad as some idiots out there that think they are great DMs, but in actuality, are total control-freaks. It makes me glad that I have this group instead of retards like you as players and DMs. They may be heavy-handed at times and make mistakes, but at least they don't have a deeply entrenched arrogance that seem to go hand-in-hand with lousy DMing, as you have shown.

 

[Caeleddin]

Primitive Screwhead - Don't worry about it. The intent of my first post is to give a bit of background and ask for help to create a character that can fit into the backstory I have created (which my DM apparently liked so much he is insisting that he create a template for me). The problem is that he changed it so much that I am not too sure if I want to go ahead with it. I was complaining a bit about DMs that keep changing their minds, but that is secondary. My DM was the one that mentioned Psionics as something different and so I dropped it in the original post to see if anyone can come up with something. I do not have the Psi Handbook and so have no idea what they are about in 3.5. Thanee gave some very good suggestions and so did a few others. And then comes the barrage of IQ0 morons that made up their own fantasy world and attacked me with their assumptions. I am not about to sit here and take that kind of abuse from them.

The irony of idiots making their own little fantasies on a board dedicated to D&D is not lost on me. Unlike them, I operate in real life except during my weekly D&D sessions. If they want to be abusive, then I will certainly accomodate them. I have over a decade of experience in arguing on online forums. If they want a flamefest, bring it on.

 

[boredgremlin]

I have Dmed for 10 years. I had one temporarary complaint from a gamer who wanted to be a half dragon fighter. Thats it. In 10 years. I said your a nasty munchining player and i stand by it.
No one was heavy handed with you. You ignored 12 out of 15 of the classes because you didnt like them. Then spent all this time pissing and moaning trying to make your DM sound bad because he didnt let you have whatever you wanted.
You sound like a piss poor player who wants everything your way, no matter how hard other people worked to build something. I hope you DM your own game one day. Then you will tell other people "no i like it this way so thats how it has to be" just like your doing now.
You said the other players are happy sheep? Maybe your just a whiny munchkin they put up with to be nice. Lets see, a whole party is happy, versus one whiny player who wants a template? Sounds like you lose. Beyond pointlessly insulting your DM and the other players you went on to say how he is bad because he doesnt allow options.
You ever read the books? All those templates are options. You dont have a right to a single one of them. Not one. Not psychic, nothing from the MM, MM2, savage species, forgotten realms guide or any other stupid book you can think of. They are all
DM options. Every one. If you dont like it then quit. Go find some munchkin game that only cares about numbers and lets you do any stupid thing you want. Some of us remember the old game, or play non D20 games. Where the game is about more then seeing how many mods you can add up, and play a video game with books. RPing is about the story, player interaction and having creative fun. Save all us RPGers the trouble and go back to you vids. You people irk me.

 

[boredgremlin]

Primitive Screwhead - Don't worry about it. The intent of my first post is to give a bit of background and ask for help to create a character that can fit into the backstory I have created (which my DM apparently liked so much he is insisting that he create a template for me). The problem is that he changed it so much that I am not too sure if I want to go ahead with it. I was complaining a bit about DMs that keep changing their minds, but that is secondary. My DM was the one that mentioned Psionics as something different and so I dropped it in the original post to see if anyone can come up with something. I do not have the Psi Handbook and so have no idea what they are about in 3.5. Thanee gave some very good suggestions and so did a few others. And then comes the barrage of IQ0 morons that made up their own fantasy world and attacked me with their assumptions. I am not about to sit here and take that kind of abuse from them.

The irony of idiots making their own little fantasies on a board dedicated to D&D is not lost on me. Unlike them, I operate in real life except during my weekly D&D sessions. If they want to be abusive, then I will certainly accomodate them. I have over a decade of experience in arguing on online forums. If they want a flamefest, bring it on.

Lol see? whiny player. whining again. Not a single cause for why he wants all these things beyond some "backstory" that gives him a free angelic sage.
And everyone who thinks he is wrong has a low IQ? Figures. Many players who are not bright enough or creative enough to be DM's are capable of whining about DM's. Let them vollunteer to spend 10 or more hours a week after work, for free, trying to make everyone enjoy a game. Then let them whine.