I'd suspect you might see the necromancer in January in the undead supplement.
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I'd suspect you might see the necromancer in January in the undead supplement.
GMforPowergamers
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Depending on what the classes in PHB2 actually are, this allows them to release the power sourcebooks on a faster schedule. You don't want to put out an arcane power sourcebook when you're sitting on an arcane class that a lot of gamers will want to play, but won't be out until PHB3 because everyone wants you to squeeze in psionics.
This is more or less what I explained when I predicted just "arcane, divine and primal heroes" in PHB2 in the latter pages of the class speculation thread.
Apparently, four or so classes is enough for them to feel like they've got enough material or covered enough bases to release a power source book. They may not feel like "filling in the grid" with every role for every power source, but I think they do want to have the bulk of a power source's planned classes out before releasing a book that is supposed to be the be-all and end-all for that power source.
This year, we got Fighter, Ranger, Rogue, Warlord and so they can release the Martial Power book. We have warlock and wizard. They'll be adding swordmage. Then early next year, we'll have bard and probably sorcerer if it remains arcane. We have cleric and paladin, and theurge and inquisitor speculation seems likely to me for the PHB2. Then we'll have Druid, Barbarian, Shaman, and probably one other primal class, the 'W' class.
So they'll have 4/5/4/4 in terms of the number of classes in each power source presented so far. That frees them up to release power books for each of those. Arcane, and then probably divine in the summer or fall, and primal in the fall or early next year.
Doing it this way actually provides more options in the short term, if you include the options in power books that they can now release because they've got most of a power source's classes described.
I also think it's better for psionics in general. If you're a psionics player, do you want them to do one or two classes at a time, spreading the classes, feats, items and other details of psionics between two or three PHBs, plus a power source book, that you have to flip through and lug around with you? I personally prefer the consolidation of the core classes and options in as few books as possible for each source.
Since the PHBs clearly aren't going to be an annual thing, anyway, we could very well see PHB3 before Eberron. Maybe it was just my assumption, but I thought we'd be seeing a PHB roughly every June, yet it's coming out one quarter earlier. If PHB3 follows hot on its heels, that means we could be seeing psionics when we expected them, just not in the book we expected.
This is more or less what I explained when I predicted just "arcane, divine and primal heroes" in PHB2 in the latter pages of the class speculation thread.
Apparently, four or so classes is enough for them to feel like they've got enough material or covered enough bases to release a power source book. They may not feel like "filling in the grid" with every role for every power source, but I think they do want to have the bulk of a power source's planned classes out before releasing a book that is supposed to be the be-all and end-all for that power source.
This year, we got Fighter, Ranger, Rogue, Warlord and so they can release the Martial Power book. We have warlock and wizard. They'll be adding swordmage. Then early next year, we'll have bard and probably sorcerer if it remains arcane. We have cleric and paladin, and theurge and inquisitor speculation seems likely to me for the PHB2. Then we'll have Druid, Barbarian, Shaman, and probably one other primal class, the 'W' class.
So they'll have 4/5/4/4 in terms of the number of classes in each power source presented so far. That frees them up to release power books for each of those. Arcane, and then probably divine in the summer or fall, and primal in the fall or early next year.
Doing it this way actually provides more options in the short term, if you include the options in power books that they can now release because they've got most of a power source's classes described.
I also think it's better for psionics in general. If you're a psionics player, do you want them to do one or two classes at a time, spreading the classes, feats, items and other details of psionics between two or three PHBs, plus a power source book, that you have to flip through and lug around with you? I personally prefer the consolidation of the core classes and options in as few books as possible for each source.
Since the PHBs clearly aren't going to be an annual thing, anyway, we could very well see PHB3 before Eberron. Maybe it was just my assumption, but I thought we'd be seeing a PHB roughly every June, yet it's coming out one quarter earlier. If PHB3 follows hot on its heels, that means we could be seeing psionics when we expected them, just not in the book we expected.
Its sad that we wont have psionics for eberron launch...
See the last paragraph I just wrote directly above. Since we're seeing PHB2 sooner than expected, we'll likely also see that same accelerated schedule continue. As I said, we might see psionics roughly around the time we expected them, just not in the book we expected. I doubt they'll hold out for long. They seem to be blowing their load rather quickly.
Kobold Avenger
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While Sarlona is a part of Eberron, it wasn't the absolute essential requirement. Yes that means it'll cut down what could be done with the quori, but honestly the one campaign setting that depends on psionics more than anyone else is Dark Sun. There's no way you could run it without psionics.Its sad that we wont have psionics for eberron launch...
Kobold Avenger
Legend
'W' I suspect is either Witch or Wu Jen (the old Mandarin spelling for 'Witch Person'). Wu Jen was a class that was somewhere between Wizard and Druid always, even back in 1e as far as their spell-list goes. Of course there's a good argument on how the Wu Jen could be an elemental power source class too.
Though right now I have no idea what makes Elemental different from Primal. But it's possible that there could be Artificers(?), Wu Jen (controller) and Sha'irs (leader) for Elements.
Then again for the Witch argument, the Witch is something that's really really hasn't been done in good detail for D&D. If Shaman is the Primal Leader, Barbarian is Primal Defender, and Druid is some sort of Primal striker/controller hybrid, then maybe there's room for the Witch as a pure Primal controller. Even though I pictured a Primal striker being more of a hunter like the spell-casting ranger we had in all these previous editions.
You never know, but somehow I feel that eventually we'll see a striker class that has the 'skirmish' ability that scouts had. Skirmish doesn't seem like something that's very Inquisitor-ish to me with the whole moving around alot, so maybe it could be for a primal striker.
Though right now I have no idea what makes Elemental different from Primal. But it's possible that there could be Artificers(?), Wu Jen (controller) and Sha'irs (leader) for Elements.
Then again for the Witch argument, the Witch is something that's really really hasn't been done in good detail for D&D. If Shaman is the Primal Leader, Barbarian is Primal Defender, and Druid is some sort of Primal striker/controller hybrid, then maybe there's room for the Witch as a pure Primal controller. Even though I pictured a Primal striker being more of a hunter like the spell-casting ranger we had in all these previous editions.
You never know, but somehow I feel that eventually we'll see a striker class that has the 'skirmish' ability that scouts had. Skirmish doesn't seem like something that's very Inquisitor-ish to me with the whole moving around alot, so maybe it could be for a primal striker.
Danceofmasks
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Controller! Controller!
If you say otherwise, you've never been molested by a polar bear!
Err ... umm ...
If you say otherwise, you've never been molested by a polar bear!
Err ... umm ...
Kobold Avenger
Legend
But just how is that polar bear handled under the rules, is it part of an effect where a polar bear appears and molests your target and then disappears.
Or is it something that last to the end of the round or a sustained molestation effect?
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