D&D General New Baldur's Gate III Teaser Trailer

Larian Studios posted a teaser trailer for Baldur's Gate III on Twitter, showing off both apparent cutscene and gameplay footage.

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The trailer ends with the statement "Join us on the road to Baldur's Gate Starting June 6" This date is the first date of the Guerrilla Collective Indie Game Showcase, taking place online from June 6-8. Larian Studios is a participant in the event and previously promised Baldur's Gate III news at the showcase. This statement lends further credence to industry speculation that the big announcement will be the date of early access, and it may hint that early access will start on June 6. But it looks like we still have another week before we know for sure.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

Rude, much?

It is top 350 in name popularity - about 1 in 2000 boys have the name, apparently. So we probably have some people on this board that you just insulted.

Sorry, but you miss the point. Edwin might well be a popular name in some parts of the world, but it is not a popular name in England (which is where Ruin Explorer lives). And the phrase "a popular English name" is ambiguous.

 

[Parmandur]

Sorry, but you miss the point. Edwin might well be a popular name in some parts of the world, but it is not a popular name in England (which is where Ruin Explorer lives). And the phrase "a popular English name" is ambiguous.

"English" often means the language, not the nationality. It is an English name, fairly popular in most of the Anglosphere. For the purposes of the Realms, American and Canadian perceptions are what matters in terms of the history of name usage.

 

[jgsugden]

Sorry, but you miss the point. Edwin might well be a popular name in some parts of the world, but it is not a popular name in England (which is where Ruin Explorer lives). And the phrase "a popular English name" is ambiguous.

Sorry, but that doesn't excuse saying something so rude. Maybe apologize when you've thrown random insults out there rather than defending yourself?

Regardless, Edwin ranked 564 out of 6,164 names last year in England & Wales, so.... still fairly common. Baby names: How popular is your name?

 

[Paul Farquhar]

Sorry, but that doesn't excuse saying something so rude. Maybe apologize when you've thrown random insults out there rather than defending yourself?

Regardless, Edwin ranked 564 out of 6,164 names last year in England & Wales, so.... still fairly common. Baby names: How popular is your name?

It's not rude, it's an observation - you have a funny name you are likely to get bullied - I know, Farquhar is not a common name in England.

I'n my line of work I see a lot of names, and the only Edwin I have come across was Hubble, who was American.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

"English" often means the language, not the nationality.

If you are not English, then "English" probably means the language to you. If you are English it is as likely to refer to your nationality.

 

[jgsugden]

It's not rude, it's an observation - ...

No, saying a name is going to get you beat up is insulting to anyone that has that name. Defending it twice is enough to get me to ignore you from now on.

 

[Parmandur]

If you are not English, then "English" probably means the language to you. If you are English it is as likely to refer to your nationality.

Right, which for writers in Ontario and Wisconsin it is different, and that's what matters for Realmsian naming convention.

 

[Ruin Explorer]

@Ruin Explorer - Ball is in your court.

You've been asked to provide the details of this Forgotten Realms naming convention. You responded by complaining the request was not made in good faith, and that you were not going to continue the discussion … right before you went on for three more paragraphs, followed by two more posts in which you names that exhibit a lack of consistent naming conventions in the Realms by calling them exceptions, and describing Edwin as an English name as "incredible stuff" … Wikipedia: The name Edwin means "rich friend". It comes from the Old English elements "ead" (rich, blessed) and "wine" (friend).[1] The original Anglo-Saxon form is Eadwine, which is also found for Anglo-Saxon figures.

I don't trust Wikipedia for everything, but if I see something there, I generally don't assume it is "incredible stuff".

Where is this naming convention codified? What are the rules? Didn't Salvatore, the most prolific FR author, invent a wide variety of names for characters from many different races? Are not Greenwood's own original source materials rife with a wide variety of names? Nanfoodle, Fzoul Chembryl, Dove Falconhand, Manshoon, Flattery Wynerspur, Haephaestus, Jon Irenicus, Thibbledorf Pwent, Tristan Kendrick, Robyn, Balthazar, Dagnabbit, Danica Moupoissant, ... names are all over the place.

Legio is arguing in an outright bad faith way. I'm not going to play with a bad faith actor, just because you want me to.

I'm trying to interpret your post as charitably as possible, but it's quite hard because you've built an argument that relies on you misquoting me. Was that intentional or an accident? I don't know. I can't know. But I never said Edwin wasn't an English name, like you claim. I said it wasn't a "popular English name". And it isn't. It is as I said, "incredible stuff" to claim that Edwin is a "popular English name". Now if you want to argue with what I actually said, great, go ahead, but literally none of your argument is relevant to whether Edwin is a popular English name. It's extremely unpopular - around the 500th most popular name in the UK (where long ago, it was popular). Claiming it is "popular" is a good example of kind of needless and pointless bad faith stuff some people are using.

You can make a reasonable argument without misleading people like that. But some people choose not to. And you trying to get me to engage with a bad faith argument, whilst misquoting me? That's not a great look.

Further, what is even your argument? Are you claiming that the FR does not, generally, have a specific style of naming? Or are you merely saying "Well no-one has clearly codified it"? I'm unclear so I'm not even sure what response you want. I would assert that anyone claiming the FR doesn't, generally and broadly, have a specific style of naming (even if there are plenty of exceptions, which are still certainly a minority, as the FR wiki will quickly show you), is either not someone who knows much about the FR, or not someone who is interested in a straightforward discussion of this. If you're saying merely that it's not codified, as far as I know, that's correct, but it doesn't make it any less of thing.

And it's particularly ludicrous to claim it's not a thing given how many people who aren't keen on the FR use it as a stick to bash it.

EDIT - Also really unimpressed with how you're treating Paul, who is just trying to be honest, and the faux-outrage and claims of "insults" re: him saying it is unpopular and likely to lead to bullying (both of which are true) looks really like you're trying to attack people rather than to discuss the issue.

 

[Ruin Explorer]

"English" often means the language, not the nationality. It is an English name, fairly popular in most of the Anglosphere. For the purposes of the Realms, American and Canadian perceptions are what matters in terms of the history of name usage.

Where in the Anglosphere is it "popular"? Specifically?

If it's outside the top 100, I can't take a claim that it's popular seriously. It's lower than 500 in the UK. Lower than 600 in the US. I can't find data for it in NZ/Canada/Australia (perhaps I'm being dumb or bad at Google though).

In the UK, the last time it was in the top 100 was 1944 (89). That's before my dad was born, and he's over 70. The last time it was seriously popular, in the top 20, was 1860.

 

[Oofta]

Legio is arguing in an outright bad faith way. I'm not going to play with a bad faith actor, just because you want me to.

I'm trying to interpret your post as charitably as possible, but it's quite hard because you've built an argument that relies on you misquoting me. Was that intentional or an accident? I don't know. I can't know. But I never said Edwin wasn't an English name, like you claim. I said it wasn't a "popular English name". And it isn't. It is as I said, "incredible stuff" to claim that Edwin is a "popular English name". Now if you want to argue with what I actually said, great, go ahead, but literally none of your argument is relevant to whether Edwin is a popular English name. It's extremely unpopular - around the 500th most popular name in the UK (where long ago, it was popular). Claiming it is "popular" is a good example of kind of needless and pointless bad faith stuff some people are using.

You can make a reasonable argument without misleading people like that. But some people choose not to. And you trying to get me to engage with a bad faith argument, whilst misquoting me? That's not a great look.

Further, what is even your argument? Are you claiming that the FR does not, generally, have a specific style of naming? Or are you merely saying "Well no-one has clearly codified it"? I'm unclear so I'm not even sure what response you want. I would assert that anyone claiming the FR doesn't, generally and broadly, have a specific style of naming (even if there are plenty of exceptions, which are still certainly a minority, as the FR wiki will quickly show you), is either not someone who knows much about the FR, or not someone who is interested in a straightforward discussion of this. If you're saying merely that it's not codified, as far as I know, that's correct, but it doesn't make it any less of thing.

And it's particularly ludicrous to claim it's not a thing given how many people who aren't keen on the FR use it as a stick to bash it.

EDIT - Also really unimpressed with how you're treating Paul, who is just trying to be honest, and the faux-outrage and claims of "insults" re: him saying it is unpopular and likely to lead to bullying (both of which are true) looks really like you're trying to attack people rather than to discuss the issue.

Multiple sources that state that "Edwin" is an English name. Whether or not you are personally not familiar with it or consider it "English" is not particularly relevant.

Can you point to anything that states a standard? A quick google search reveals a Calishite naming convention, but that's it.

Why does it matter? Many, many games and authors have violated it.

But these things just seem like such weird things to complain about. FR is the garbage dump of D&D tropes and you're arguing about naming conventions?