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[Seramus]

No

Magical beast is too narrow for inclusion.

Especially with unicorns and Pegasi leaving it.

They can drop the "Beast" part and just use Magical as a catch-all for things greater than their origins (but not a Monstrosity).

 

[Levistus's_Leviathan]

Games Workshop made a large number of changes to their various IPs specifically to protect them from being used by other companies, unpending decades of terminology. I see a possible similarly here.

They’re still called Celestials.

 

[Minigiant]

They can drop the "Beast" part and just use Magical as a catch-all for things greater than their origins (but not a Monstrosity).

So a Pegasus would be a "Magical"



Huh?

I rather have Pegasi and Unicorns be celestials so that I can TPK a party with the official statblock of Princess Celestia when my coffee gets low and they committed another evil act.

 

[Misanthrope Prime]

There were also the Monadic and Movanic Deva that were lesser than the Astral Deva.

The Gonadic Deva was added in the book of erotic fantasy, no?

 

[Seramus]

So a Pegasus would be a "Magical"



Huh?

It's an understood Magical [Blank]. Magical Beast, Magical Humanoid, Magical Giant. It allows for augmented versions of any other type, without the unnecessary restriction of being just Beasts.

 

[mamba]

Great art, best thing I can say about it

yeah, they certainly had a much bigger budget this time around, and it shows

 

[Micah Sweet]

Nah.

The problem is that Monstrosity now exists.

Monstrosity consumed Monstrous humanoid and Magical beast for all general monsters without a definitive celestial, fiendish, fey, or far realm link.

The issue became that now "monsters" that weren't "monstrous" don't really fit in "monstrosity".

A Pegasus isn't a "monster".
A unicorn is not a "monster".

There aren't enough "It's an animal but magic" In general D&D to warrant clean them out of monstrosity and creating a separate magical beast type for them.

So pretty much the "pretty monsters" are being pulled out of monstrosity and turned into celestials.

That's what I'm saying. Magical Beast is a better category than Monstrosity.

 

[Micah Sweet]

They’re still called Celestials.

But they changed what Celestial (and other types) means so they could shuffle creatures around. Still not sure why.

 

[dave2008]

But why make a square peg fit into a round hole? Giant beasts now celestials? What do the druids have to say about this?

It wasn't giant beast, it was only giant sapient beasts that are now celestials. The mentioned not sapient giant beasts are still Beasts

 

[dave2008]

But they changed what Celestial (and other types) means so they could shuffle creatures around. Still not sure why.

Because they are trying to make it more clear, which I think is a good thing. Their success is TBD. In general I have liked what I have heard, but I need more time to digest it all and see the new MM