New Class and Race?

[GMforPowergamers]

Does anyone else think they are really reaching with these new races and classes? It's like they are running out of ideas and just making drek up to fill the pages.

yes and no. I think they are casting a wide net looking for what works... Mt and the guys I play with call it warlock fishing. Back in 3e over a dozen new classes where introduced in the complete books. Out of them how many really saw serise play? I bet less then half... and out of them how many really took off? Well the Warlock is the best example... It was so popular it made it into 4e's PHBI...

So far in 4e the 'new warlocks' seam to me to be the Avenger and the Warlord. I can't imagin 5e not useing both classes. How ever if warden got dumped, or completly re imagined I doubt many would mind.

right now they are throwing strange new things at us to see what catches on. I think the rune guy has potental, the seeker seams kinda cool, and I am willing to give most things a chance.

 

[Squizzle]

Does the runepriest have any build-dependent class features, or is that mechanical slot being filled by the per-round selectable rune-states?

 

[bagger245]

Does anyone else think they are really reaching with these new races and classes? It's like they are running out of ideas and just making drek up to fill the pages.

I'm buying into their merchandising strategy though since I'm coughing up the money to buy the book just for the Monk (and I suppose the minotaur).

Yeah, I think so too. Bust its mainly for the new mechanics rather than archetypes. I only need the 4 main (fighter, rogue, cleric, wizard) and the rest are just variations of the archetypes with own mechanics. Sure I can reflavour all my cleric or paladin powers to be rune-based, but the Runepriest gives me the mechanics to back it up. Same goes to the future classes. Makes me wonder what classes can they come up with which isn't a variation of a wizard/sorceror for Elemental power source.

 

[Hellzon]

So far in 4e the 'new warlocks' seam to me to be the Avenger and the Warlord. I can't imagin 5e not useing both classes. How ever if warden got dumped, or completly re imagined I doubt many would mind.

[pedant]Isn't the Warlord close to 3.x:s Marshal?[/pedant]

 

[1of3]

No Name, could you tell us: Do Runepriests get Channel Divinities?

Thanks very much.

 

[GMforPowergamers]

[pedant]Isn't the Warlord close to 3.x:s Marshal?[/pedant]

Yes and no. Yes it is based on the same idea (and may even have gotten some powers from it) but realisticly it is more white ravon school from Bo9S, and even then was reimagined and refocused.

When I look at the 3.5 warlock and the 4e warlock I see the same class, with some new paint... when I look at the Marshal 3.5, and the Warlord 4e...I see they have a simalar frame (aka basic concept) but with a complet overhaul...

Again my bet (based on the interwebs, and personal experance...so no real data) is that 5e will see the same 'classic' classes we all know and love, but will also see Avenger, Warlock and Warlord pretty much as is with some new paint... we may see a warden, an invoker, a Shawman... BUT it will be with an overhaul ala marshal to warlord...


Now as for phb3 classes, well MOnk already has traction... we will see a monk in 5e. Psionics in general have traction... but every edtion overhauls them, so time will tell weather battlemind, and ardents are seen again. I hope rune priest and seekers are break out hits... but so far I don't know.

 

[Somebloke]

Yes, the Battlemind had an insane at-will power called Mind Spike. When an enemy adjacent to the Battlemind (and marked by the Battlemind) deals damage on an attack that doesn't include the BM, as an immediate reaction the BM deals force and psychic damage to that enemy equal to the damage it did to your ally.

Hang on...do you mean that the battlemind gets to roll an attack that does equal damage, or that the battlemind automatically does damage? Because if it's the second, I'm calling broken right here and now.

 

[Herschel]

At least limbs have a practical purpose, and since a rock-being needs to move and manipulate items, they are reasonable. Breasts, on the other hand, are udderly strange.

You've obviously never been with a female of the species, have you. No practical purpose? Oy vay!

 

[GMforPowergamers]

At least limbs have a practical purpose, and since a rock-being needs to move and manipulate items, they are reasonable. Breasts, on the other hand, are udderly strange.

I guess that depends... since dragonborn nurse there young, maybe so do these rocks... or maybe it is just part of the same "all humonids look the same" way of thinking to stop people from having to think to much...

eaither way, a psionic cyrstal should float, communicate telapathicly and have no recongnizable humonid parts... also not need to eat, or breath... In fact I think a small beholder mini with the eye stacks cut off and repaineted as rock crystal would work best...

 

[GnomeNinja5]

My questions are as follows:

• Do Minotaurs still seem to be very melee-focused? If not, what are their Racial Traits?
• Do Runepriests seem to have different builds in any way?
• How EXACTLY does the Battlemind marking and hurty-thing work?
• What does the Wis Psion seem to be good at?
• What does the Con Ardet seem to be good at?