D&D 5E New D&D Survey, with some in-depth setting questions

[Aldarc]

It's something I believe D&D is beyond due exploring. The lowest you really get is Dark Sun and that hasn't made it to 5th yet. And even Dark Sun isn't that narrow

I don't think that it ever will as that requires reigning in spellcasters and restricting players' toys.

I would definitely be curious how D&D would look if 5th level spells was the new max cap for full casters, but that's something that 3pp would explore rather than WotC. So not quite as restricted as say Adventures in Middle Earth, but also not as high as D&D's default range.

 

[Minigiant]

the casters being super versatile is the balance problem the wizard is an example.

Not just a game balance.

Jamming almost every single supernatural effect in 2 classes severely restricts the stories, plots, and lore you can tell.

 

[Scribe]

I'm very aware of that for a time DL novels were more numerous and popular then FR novels. That is no longer the case and has been for literally decades.

You used to walk into a bookstore, and see dozens of Dragonlance novels. Heck you still see Chronicles and Legends.

FR? They have Drizzt.

Granted FR had many more novels once, but Novels and that core story in popular history, likely meant more to DL, than they did to the history of FR which had more setting, and adventures, as well as novels.

 

[Bolares]

You used to walk into a bookstore, and see dozens of Dragonlance novels. Heck you still see Chronicles and Legends.

FR? They have Drizzt.

Granted FR had many more novels once, but Novels and that core story in popular history, likely meant more to DL, than they did to the history of FR which had more setting, and adventures, as well as novels.

I think it's not about the volume of novels. It's about the impact of the novels. FR novels are way less impactfull than the Dragonlance novel in their respective settings. The war of the lance trilogy IS Dragonlance for a lot of people. Drizzt and other novels have a huge impact on FR, but it does not come close in comparison to Dragonlance

 

[Scribe]

I think it's not about the volume of novels. It's about the impact of the novels. FR novels are way less impactfull than the Dragonlance novel in their respective settings. The war of the lance trilogy IS Dragonlance for a lot of people. Drizzt and other novels have a huge impact on FR, but it does not come close in comparison to Dragonlance

Absolutely, I'm just struggling to articulate that I think.

 

[billd91]

Geez, that was a long survey from WotC.

 

[Bolares]

Geez, that was a long survey from WotC.

And yet, I didn't get an opportunity to ask for an Eberron adventure.

 

[tetrasodium]

I don't think that it ever will as that requires reigning in spellcasters and restricting players' toys.

I would definitely be curious how D&D would look if 5th level spells was the new max cap for full casters, but that's something that 3pp would explore rather than WotC. So not quite as restricted as say Adventures in Middle Earth, but also not as high as D&D's default range.

Spells would need to go back to scaling by caster level again or similar & spell slots would also need to go back to the earlier versions as 5e slot progression slows down at levels three four six eight & ten with each slowdown building upon the last.

Between levels seven & twenty a caster will go from having have 4 1st, 3 2nd, 3 3rd, & 1 4th level spell to having two extra 4th level spell slots & 3 5th level slots.

Spoiler: the progression

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During that time from seven to twenty a rogue will gain 6d6 per round on their sneak attack (4d6->10d6)& a fighter will gain two more attacks they can use every round plus a second action surge. The caster by comparison in 5e needs to use higher level spell slots to up the impact of their spells so has really been doing a bit of water dreading because of the lack of slot gains.

A lot of spells would need to be releveled, some of them with new effects too. Others like demiplane would need to be changed to something like the levelup stronghold option for having it in extradimensional space or whatever & no longer really have a reason to be a spell as a result.

 

[overgeeked]

Doing Dark Sun in 5E is dead simple. Just remove the spells and abilities that make surviving the desert trivial (getting lost, food, water, heat protection, etc), give everyone a free feat at 1st level that’s explicitly their psionic talent, and port in 2E’s defiling radius. The only trick is sorting how you’d handle what defiling gives you. The best version I’ve seen is a free up-cast. You defile while casting a level 1 spell, it removes a level 1 slot from you, but it is cast as if you used a level 2 slot.

 

[Mind of tempest]

Doing Dark Sun in 5E is dead simple. Just remove the spells and abilities that make surviving the desert trivial (getting lost, food, water, heat protection, etc), give everyone a free feat at 1st level that’s explicitly their psionic talent, and port in 2E’s defiling radius. The only trick is sorting how you’d handle what defiling gives you. The best version I’ve seen is a free up-cast. You defile while casting a level 1 spell, it removes a level 1 slot from you, but it is cast as if you used a level 2 slot.

true you can do it right now but people would want a psionic class.