New Game of Death: Battle Royale of the GAWDS

[clockworkjoe]

I dropped you to the ground because there is no way for you t stand up holding that weight realistically. By your logic, a character with 10 strength should be able to carry 400 pounds of equipment with few penalties. I'm not going to

I'm not going to do that.

You are still able to make perform checks if you want to.

As for the crowd: they aren't going to save you or kill Martok. The whole point of the crowd was to allow players to show off and gain bonus points by essentially saying "I'm so badass I don't even need this turn." They're a way to get bonus points, not a tool to use in battle.

I'm sorry if I ever gave you the impression that the crowd would physically act out. I never intended for that to happen.

And you haven't sacrificed any levels to gain bardic ability in exchange for anything else and you know that.

 

[Saepiroth]

Oh and saepiroth: Activating a magic item is a standard action so I just removed the attack from your action.

ok, cool.


Removed pic with inappropriate language on it. And flame-bait as well. - Darkness

 

[JDragon]

Regarding the Crowd, - you can whip them in to a freenzy or what the book calls it. THis does not mean that they are going to be able to do anthing to the people in the arena. THis is even more true here than normal, as the arean is controled by Gawds. If you were here watching this would you do something thats going to piss of the gawds? Now if you were trying to get them to go after the cohorts in the crowd that would be a different story.

As for the weight, I'm having trouble seeing what your weight is exactly (or its just not posted, understandably) so thats kinda tuff. But, if Jade is over her max load in wieght attached to the her (IE armor, backpacks, pouches) then I wouls say she is on the ground.

The whole point of how the system is writen is to make it simple. You can carry up to X and move with out an issue. THe larger X gets the slower you go. Once X gets so large you can't move, end of story. Yes you can push, using leverage, possition and abiltiy to rest occasionly to move more, but that is very, very diffrent than having it piled on you, dispercement makes no diffrence after a certin point. (which from what CWJ has said Jade is over)

JDragon

 

[JDragon]

Double post -

& Saepiroth - please pull the picture before a Mod sees it and closes the thread.

JDragon

 

[Darkness]

Taken care of...

And keep cool, folks, ok?

 

[reapersaurus]

(I see Saeph took lessons in flame-bait from blackshirt#5 and others)

RE: Crowd.
I am not looking for the crowd to kill Martok or something silly like that - I'm sorry if I got that impression across.
My insistence is that their hostile attitude is simply kept in mind for whatever kinds of effects that clockwork has already in mind with the crowds.
You all mentioned them.
Number47 asked "What power does the audience hold in the gawds game of death?"
Well, I don't know, that's for clockwork to decide, as he had alluded to benefits and advantages of crowd influencing.

Fandom penalties for Martok, I'd agree that they'd be appropriate in this Game. I believe that I had Jade use a VERY unique ability, that is more applicable for this very Game of Death than almost ANY possible scenario I can think of. I even role-played it very carefully, and I thought well enough to be granted a benefit.

Are spells that clockwork doesn't object to the only way to be effective in this Game?

Clockwork - I did use 1 level specifically for the powers that culminate in Greater Calumny (it requires 17 ranks of Perform, guys. Look it up in S&S. It changes a crowd's reaction VERY negatively towards the target.)
You was dismissing it as a simple performance, and that's not accurate, and I feel you'd want to know that (based on what you've told all of us).

RE: Weight.
Whether you have Jade crawl, or walk, it's still in the rules quite clearly that she can drag 5 times her Max load (and I openly posted the weights earlier, if anyone missed them : she's under 45 pounds).
The only thing that I can read in the PHB that slows her down is unfavorable conditions, such as rocky ground which would reduce it 1/2.
I don't think its that realistic to have a person not slowed down when they're dragging 5 times their max load (and further, it's not realistic that someone wouldn't be slowed when crawling), so I'll ask for realistic House Rules:

Since I believe I have the Rules on my side here, (I know, you're saying it doesn't matter, but I think clockwork has shown a desire to root House Rules based on the written rules along with what sounds reasonable), I request this:

To dodge the problem of the rules saying that a PC can drag something that heavy with no penalty, why don't we counter-House Rule how long it takes to get out of a chain shirt?
She simply wears a light chain shirt when travelling and in battle, cause it's the most protective for its weight (25 pounds).
She likes it dangly to let her Perform without binding.
The book says an unhurried removal of light armor takes 1 minute.
As i see it, she'd just slump forward, and slip out of the chain shirt (escape artist with DC 10?). (Maybe she'd lose her top or something... )

I don't see realistically how it would take so long to get a shirt off when she's already been forced prone (by a RoE!). But I'm no expert in armor - how does that sound to you guys? (mostly clockwork)

 

[clockworkjoe]

She can wiggle out of the chain shirt with 1d3 standard/partial actions, or a free action if she uses the Christmas gift.

I will roll the exact number of rounds if you decide to do that for your action.

edit to say that the genesis of the whole perform for the crowd came from another game I ran online where the whole point of the game was to outcreate the other players with stories/images/flash videos/music/whatever.

In this game, I wanted to give creative players a chance to show off their skills and earn some bonus points doing it. Dr. Midnight earned a bunch of points with his AWESOME character portait and any living character can still whip something up to contribute.

It is NOT intended to give a player any advantage over opponents. If you want a mob to whip into a frenzy, (or if you want anything else) petition the gods to grant your wish.

BTW the only ongoing quests are hunt the beast in the field and the quest you placed on martok.

 

[reapersaurus]

outcreate the other players with stories/images/flash videos/music/whatever.

In this game, I wanted to give creative players a chance to show off their skills and earn some bonus points doing it. Dr. Midnight earned a bunch of points with his AWESOME character portait and any living character can still whip something up to contribute.

"creative players"?
what does creative mean, exactly?

There has been roleplay, strategic actions, style points, lyrics used, etc.
One could argue that being able to make these GoD characters is being creative.

Limiting the rewards of "Creativity" to spectacular examples like Dr. Midnight's fantastic skill with art is a tad.... limiting, and sets the bar unreasonably high for participation.

 

[reapersaurus]

If you want a mob to whip into a frenzy, (or if you want anything else) petition the gods to grant your wish.

What is "petition the gods to grant your wish" exactly?

And the crowd already IS in a "frenzy" against Martok.
Their attitudes can not get any worse towards him. That's what Jade's Greater Calumny caused.
Did I waste an action doing that? I thought long and hard, and decided that for this GoD, I should play to the crowd to match the environment you've put together.

I could have much easier just continued trying to have Jade protect herself (not that it's going to matter with Martok the uber-assassin flying around, using every resource to kill the cohort).
But I changed my tactics to try to match your Tournament.
I guess there's no way for her to get out of the situation...

 

[clockworkjoe]

you are being rewarded. You will get bonus points at the end of the game. That is reward enough.


As for petitoning, There is a small chance that the gawds random action is geared towards helping a specific player or players (no, it has not been selected yet.). If a player specifically states what he or she wants, that will happen, otherwise they get what the gawds think is best.

edit to say that you can still use your christmas gift to negate the ray. Sorry I forgot to mention that earlier.