new gestalt character

[Rakusia]

[SIZE=+2]saohun[/SIZE]
Male Human Fighter 1 / Ranger 1
Chaotic Good

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Strength	(+2)
Dexterity	(+4)
Constitution	(+3)
Intelligence	(+2)
Wisdom	(+1)
Charisma	(+1)

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Size:	Medium
Height:	5' 6"
Weight:	200 lb
Skin:	Tan
Eyes:	Hazel
Hair:	Black Wavy; Beardless

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Gestalt combination: Fighter Ranger

Total Hit Points: 13
Speed: 30 feet
Armor Class: 18 = 10 +4 [chain shirt] +4 [dexterity]

• Touch AC: 14
  Flat-footed: 14

Initiative modifier:	+4	= +4 [dexterity]
Fortitude save:	+5	= 2 [base] +3 [constitution]
Reflex save:	+6	= 2 [base] +4 [dexterity]
Will save:	+1	= 0 [base] +1 [wisdom]
Attack (handheld):	+3	= 1 [base] +2 [strength]
Attack (unarmed):	+3	= 1 [base] +2 [strength]
Attack (missile):	+5	= 1 [base] +4 [dexterity]
Grapple check:	+3	= 1 [base] +2 [strength]

Light load: Medium load: Heavy load: Lift over head: Lift off ground: Push or drag:

66 lb. or less 67-133 lb. 134-200 lb. 200 lb. 400 lb. 1000 lb.

Languages:

Common Dwarven Elven

Dagger [1d4, crit 19-20/x2, range inc 10 ft., 1 lb., light, piercing]
Longsword [1d8, crit 19-20/x2 4 lb, one-handed, slashing]
Composite Longbow [1d8, crit x3, range incr. 100 ft., 3 lb, piercing]
Chain shirt [light; +4 AC; max dex +4; check penalty -2; 25 lb.]

Feats:

• Point Blank Shot
  Far Shot
  Precise Shot
  Track	[free to rangers]

Traits:

Skill Name	Key Ability	Skill Modifier	Ability Modifier	Ranks	Misc. Modifier
Appraise	Int	+2
Balance	Dex*	+4
Bluff	Cha	+1
Climb	Str*	+2
Concentration	Con	+3	+4
Craft_1	Int	+2
Craft_2	Int	+2
Craft_3	Int	+2
Diplomacy	Cha	+1
Disguise	Cha	+1
Escape Artist	Dex*	+4
Forgery	Int	+2
Gather Information	Cha	+1
Handle Animal	Cha	+1	+4
Heal	Wis	+1
Hide	Dex*	+4	+4
Intimidate	Cha	+1
Jump	Str*	+2
Knowledge (nature)	Int	+2	+4
Listen	Wis	+1	+4
Move Silently	Dex*	+4	+4
Perform_1	Cha	+1
Perform_2	Cha	+1
Perform_3	Cha	+1
Perform_4	Cha	+1
Perform_5	Cha	+1
Ride	Dex	+4
Search	Int	+2	+4
Sense Motive	Wis	+1
Spot	Wis	+1	+4
Survival	Wis	+1	+4
Swim	Str**	+2
Use Rope	Dex	+4

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* = check penalty for wearing armor

Human:

• Extra feat at first level (already included)
• Four extra skill points at first level (already included)
• One extra skill point at each additional level (already included)

Fighter:

• Bonus Feats (already included)

Ranger:

• Favored enemies
• Track as bonus feat (already included)
• Combat Style
• Endurance
• Wild empathy (roll level + charisma bonus)
• Endurance (level 3)
• Animal Companion (level 4)
• Woodland Stride (level 7)
• Swift Tracker (level 8)
• Evasion (level 9)
• Camouflage (level 13)
• Hide in Plain Sight (level 17)
• High wisdom gains bonus spells daily

Favored Enemies:

• Magical Beasts +2

This ranger chose the archery track.

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Level 1:	Gestalt

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saohun's Equipment:

• Weapons / Armor / Shield (from above) Arrows (quiver of 20) x5 Backpack Bedroll Blanket, winter x1 Caltrops Pouch x3 Rations (1 day) x3 Sealing wax Spell component pouch Total

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  Also...
  • extra strings and other small tools and misc. bow/arrow maintenance in sell component pouch

was just testing out this gestalt character build. ultimate goal is to have an ultimate kiter. should I have chosen different feats? im not a super min maxer but do like having a fairly optimized character build. not asking for someone to make my character, just asking for some sage advice from the people who have been there before me

 

[Jackinthegreen]

A 30 foot move speed won't cut it for kiting because of the charge action, since charges can go up to twice the character's land speed (and sometimes further depending on the build). You'd need at least a 60 foot move speed to get around that problem, and that's assuming the enemy is focusing on you in the first place and has a 30 foot or less move speed.

The best kiters (or indeed best at many things) are full spellcasters. Slow comes to mind, as does Touch of Fatigue to prevent most things from charging. Spectral Hand gets around the touch range issue. Cause Blindness/Deafness can easily take out most melee types. Or just flying around in the air and making the poor bozos on the ground have to resort to plinking away at you with backup ranged weapons. Getting flight for free is most easily done with warlock.

Might I recommend putting spoiler tags around some stuff in the future? I think it's [ sblock] and [/ sblock] minus spaces to do so. That way people don't have to scroll all the way through your skills and such (which aren't really pertinent to getting help achieving your goal, mind) to get to other parts of the post. Your equipment likewise isn't all that meaningful for the discussion at hand, though caltrops can definitely be useful.

Unless your DM is humoring you and will have your opponents go after you and never charge you, you simply won't be kiting stuff (assuming kiting is Kill In Transit like how it is in WoW). You don't do enough damage to really be a first-order threat compared to a melee guy with a greatsword really dishing out damage or the squishy wizard in back slinging fireballs.

If you mean KITing as something different from leading a creature on to be Killed In Transit, please do tell.