New planes?

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

I really love the Plane of Mirrors from the 3E Manual of the Planes. I had been hoping that would make the jump to 4E core, but I'll use it myself, no matter what.

 

[Oreot]

Plane of Lava: You Die. No save.





(sorry, had to say it...)

 

[Lackhand]

Salt is the remnant of the waters of the world when the actual water has been destroyed. The caustic remnants of Water drifting towards Negative Energy.

Mineral (I'm guessing this is what you mean by crystal) is a rarified Earth, made precious glittering and valuable by ascendance towards Postive Energy.

Thanks, I did mean mineral. Just pointing out that they don't really deserve to be different places to me-- the Acid Sea isn't really an elemental place, just an incredibly awful one; similarly, the Plane of Sharp Stones doesn't seem particularly (obviously) positively aligned. They're neat and not obviously evil, so in the Great Wheel they need to go somewhere, but in a world with four poles, they don't fit. In a setup where the inner planes are basically calm around the edges, pandemonium in the middle, and the abyss in the center, they fit quite nicly somewhere in pandemonium -- and so does the Plane of Blood.

Mirrors doesn't -- it gets its own constellation of (nifty) planes.

I don't mind them as planes, but I never cottoned to them as elemental planes, of which I need only the core four, no more, else I deplore the chore of neatening the, um, store?

 

[Sir Brennen]

Besides, what's the difference between Crystal and Salt again?

My plane... it has a flavor.

 

[Nightmare Toilet]

I seem to recal a plane of crystal from a dragon mag many years ago 2E likely with ioun stones and liches and crystal entities bordering positive material plane and plane of life , maybe is same is the mineral plane.

"You have a found a neutronium dragon, You win! FIRING LASER!!!!!!!!"

ha, ....

How about planes of annihilation and things that are less than nothing, impossible places, places that really stretch the imagination would be cool.

They also used to have wormholes that go to different dimensions, remember. Then there are alternate Krynns and stuff. The quantum physics stuff I like a lot, and entities that are 4D and higher. The gods should be more than 3d, I think.

Imagine a dragon that has one body but it looks like there are 5 separate dragons in the 3rd dimension, but they are actuall connectd inside via a 4th dimension, and it has fast healing, regeneration.

But then I like the metapsionics and reality control stuff.

Cartoon dimension, of course.

I'd love to see in stores a book all about the copromancy and turd monsters, haha.

edit: Mirror is cool because it has beings that can make you fight evil versions of yourself and trap you in mirror labyriths or reflect on you the damage you do to them. Things could function really differently there. Hey, a version of Maze that is a house of mirrors that the enemy could then enter, would be nice.

 

[Nightmare Toilet]

The conceptual plane of Fantasy.

The plane of Faith. Hey they have a plane of magic, so....

That's what I did like about the wheel of planes was what was beyond, places where the so-called gods would not go.

 

[Lackhand]

The conceptual plane of Fantasy.

The plane of Faith. Hey they have a plane of magic, so....

That's what I did like about the wheel of planes was what was beyond, places where the so-called gods would not go.

They have a plane of magic?

 

[Nightmare Toilet]

Yup, and it makes sense since it is some kind of element that is used. Time of troubles and some other places it was featured along with beings made of magic (magic elementals?). And the goddess of magic can control it and bar other gods from using it and stuff, make walls out of it, etc.

So who will be the goddess of elemental turd? I propose we call her Moser, after a certain individual (whose dreadful glory we need not go into here, but it ... involves eating ... turds).
ha : ) Yes, a fitting addition to the 4E pantheon!!!! : )

 

[Charwoman Gene]

This is almost time cube like.

 

[Nightmare Toilet]

And a new area of effect called "fractal"

Hypercubic gate

Fractal dragons! Hyperfractal dragons and beholders! Fractal is a new tamplate! A fractal TURD, even!


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ha, Edit:

Have you ever tried a 4d rubix cube on your computer and seen how it rotates? Imagine a beholder that look like a group of beholders but they rotate around each other like that and one rotates OUT and one rotates IN (from 4d) and they are actually the same beholder's body. Nasty. Now what plane would those be on? And they are Golgothan Beholders, of course, with rays of flesh to ... (big smile).

And these Golgothan Beholders are summoned by a Copromancer Lich dripping in animated excrement with deadly powers!