New review of the Book of Erotic Fantasy

[tetsujin28]

Exactly.
You know, I really pity a guy who is going to come up with an idea for Decameron D20 (based on Boccacio), or Fellini D20, or Bulgakov's Master & Margarethe D20.

We're adults. But we seem to be unable to argue like ones.

Regards,
Ruemere

I'm personally a fan of GURPS Isadora Duncan.

 

[tetsujin28]

I just wish that the pro-BOEF folks wouldn't automatically assume that the anti-BOEF folks are immature prudes (at best) or jack-booted right-wing censors (at worst).

How about accepting the fact that some folks think the whole idea is just friggin' GOOFY.

There's a time and a place for sex, and the gamin' table ain't it.

Wulf

Yep. If I want erotic fantasy, I'll read a Tanith Lee novel. Or watch Nigella on the telly

 

[mythago]

If even the Lawful Good alignment doesn't prohibit sex outside of marriage, what's the point of characterizing sexual mores with alignment?

This is silly. Why assume that if sex occurs outside of marriage, it must be violating a rule or law? Not every society is going to operate that way.

As a random example--think of the village in Roots, where older widows would petition the elders to have a 'sexual friendship' with an unattached younger man. Marriage? No. Lawful? Yes. These relationships needed to be officially approved by the village's council. They were permitted only between older, widowed women who were not going to remarry, and younger men who (properly) would not have social status or wealth enough to obtain a wife. It prevented randy young men or lonely older women from creating other problems. Hence: sex outside of marriage, but in a very lawful, controlled manner intended to benefit the community, and quite the opposite of "free love."

There's a time and a place for sex, and the gamin' table ain't it.

Absolutely. Having a d4 poke you in the back at an intimate moment can really kill the mood.

 

[BSF]

I just wish that the pro-BOEF folks wouldn't automatically assume that the anti-BOEF folks are immature prudes (at best) or jack-booted right-wing censors (at worst).

How about accepting the fact that some folks think the whole idea is just friggin' GOOFY.

There's a time and a place for sex, and the gamin' table ain't it.

Wulf

Well, I don't make that assumption.

I will also agree with you, to an extent. There is one group that I probably would not want to touch this subject with at all. But, there is another where we would probably have a great deal of fun with it. Though, we wouldn't necessarily feel the need to include all the material from the book.

What surprises me is the vehemance that this whole subject brings up. Though, given the subject matter, it really shouldn't. People do have very strong feelings on sex in general. Why would that be different for a gaming product.

 

[Desdichado]

Bravo, Wulf Ratbane!

I'm a "fade to grey" type of guy, myself, so I have no use for the book in the first place. I also think the idea is ridiculous from the get-go. I don't need to read the book to make a judgement on it; Valterra has been fairly upfront about what the book is.

 

[d4]

Having a d4 poke you in the back at an intimate moment can really kill the mood.

hey now! i deny everything.

what i find fascinating is that the majority of people here are against this book.

there are literally hundreds of gaming products out there that glorify violence and other "evil" behaviors. no one seems concerned about that.

one book that has a frank discussion of sexuality and sexual themes, and everyone is up in arms.

makes me wonder some times...

 

[kenjib]

EDIT: Self-moderated. I think my post was a little on the rude side. Sorry!

 

[trancejeremy]

I'm not sure it's the subject matter that many people are objecting to (though some are), but how Valar has handled it.

(This isn't even the first book involving sex - that honor goes to Mongoose's Nympology or whatever the name of it is.)

I think it looks like they did a lousy job, based on the art & text I've seen. That was my point.

 

[chatdemon]

For shame on all of you for judging. For shame for attacking. For shame on becoming that which we all hate and fight against.

No,
Shame on you for expecting everyone in the world to adopt the same gutter morality that Valterra and company decided to espouse in this product.

Some of us have some moral standards that don't allow for buying smut disguised as gaming material.

 

[Dark Jezter]

Absolutely. Having a d4 poke you in the back at an intimate moment can really kill the mood.

It's a good thing I wasn't drinking something when I read that, because I probably would have spilled it all over myself.