New spell - Blend the Insides
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Mustrum_Ridcully
Legend
I voted it is balanced, if it protects against sneak attacks.
1)
The duration is quite short, and so no spellcaster will have "activated" it during an ambush, and if he is "sneaked" then, it will most possibily outright kill him.
(And rogues planning an ambush might know who can cast the spells, and will prefer killing him because you never know what he might cast at you - and he is the easist one to kill fast)
2)
If it didn`t work against sneak attacks, then there would be no reason for a spellcaster to cast it during a battle - he might better cast a cat`s grace, or a Mage Armor, or an Acid Arrow, or whatever he might have available. Criticals happen to seldom.
3)
The spell is a bit like "See Invisibility". If you know there wil be enemies using Invisibility, you will memorize it, if you don`t expect them, you will rely on a scroll (or perhaps even a wand. )
If you expect to come under attack by rogues/assasins, than you will memorize the spell.
4)
The spell description seems to indicate (just by the flavor text), that you lose any vital organs, and that is the place where sneak attacks strike...
Two Things I would change:
a) Since it is Transmutation, and it changes your body, it should be:a Fortitude (Harmless) Save.
b) Range Touch would be okay, I think, but if you feel uncertain about it, it would be okay to make it a 3rd level spell.
For kreynolds idea of making it a % chance: (Caster Level) x 10% might be a good idea.
For a higher level spell: It could be a mass spell (bumping it at least for 3 levels, example is Haste -> Mass Haste), or it might have a longer duration. (Minutes, Hours, or even a single day - the last one is a good idea for high ranking nobles, but it would impact the setting - how was the assasin able to sneak and death attack the king, if this spell was available?)
1)
The duration is quite short, and so no spellcaster will have "activated" it during an ambush, and if he is "sneaked" then, it will most possibily outright kill him.
(And rogues planning an ambush might know who can cast the spells, and will prefer killing him because you never know what he might cast at you - and he is the easist one to kill fast)2)
If it didn`t work against sneak attacks, then there would be no reason for a spellcaster to cast it during a battle - he might better cast a cat`s grace, or a Mage Armor, or an Acid Arrow, or whatever he might have available. Criticals happen to seldom.
3)
The spell is a bit like "See Invisibility". If you know there wil be enemies using Invisibility, you will memorize it, if you don`t expect them, you will rely on a scroll (or perhaps even a wand.
)If you expect to come under attack by rogues/assasins, than you will memorize the spell.
4)
The spell description seems to indicate (just by the flavor text), that you lose any vital organs, and that is the place where sneak attacks strike...
Two Things I would change:
a) Since it is Transmutation, and it changes your body, it should be:a Fortitude (Harmless) Save.
b) Range Touch would be okay, I think, but if you feel uncertain about it, it would be okay to make it a 3rd level spell.
For kreynolds idea of making it a % chance: (Caster Level) x 10% might be a good idea.
For a higher level spell: It could be a mass spell (bumping it at least for 3 levels, example is Haste -> Mass Haste), or it might have a longer duration. (Minutes, Hours, or even a single day - the last one is a good idea for high ranking nobles, but it would impact the setting - how was the assasin able to sneak and death attack the king, if this spell was available?)
drowdude
First Post
Here is the version of the spell I would suggest using...
Blend the Insides
Transmutation
Level: Sor/Wiz 2
Components: V, S, M
Casting Time: 1 action
Range: Touch
Target: Creature touched.
Duration: 10 minutes per level
Saving Throw: Fort (harmless)
Spell Resistance: Yes (harmless)
This unusual spell transforms a subject’s internal organs into so much mush, making it much more difficult to score a successful critical hit or sneak attack upon the receipient. There is a 10% chance per 2 caster levels that these effects are negated. In addition, the subject gains immunity to all forms of subdual damage for the duration of the spell. The subject’s physiology still functions normally.
The material components for this spell are two small clumps of clay shaped into a heart and brain, which are crushed in the palm during the casting. They clay may be reused but must be reshaped.
Blend the Insides
Transmutation
Level: Sor/Wiz 2
Components: V, S, M
Casting Time: 1 action
Range: Touch
Target: Creature touched.
Duration: 10 minutes per level
Saving Throw: Fort (harmless)
Spell Resistance: Yes (harmless)
This unusual spell transforms a subject’s internal organs into so much mush, making it much more difficult to score a successful critical hit or sneak attack upon the receipient. There is a 10% chance per 2 caster levels that these effects are negated. In addition, the subject gains immunity to all forms of subdual damage for the duration of the spell. The subject’s physiology still functions normally.
The material components for this spell are two small clumps of clay shaped into a heart and brain, which are crushed in the palm during the casting. They clay may be reused but must be reshaped.
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trentonjoe
Explorer
Re: Re: New spell - Blend the Insides
I would change this to 50% + 5% per level just so a 3rd level caster might make it.
As it is, it is still a low powered defensive spell that will only be useful in certain situations. I would try to make it a little more attractive to low level casters.
I would change this to 50% + 5% per level just so a 3rd level caster might make it.
As it is, it is still a low powered defensive spell that will only be useful in certain situations. I would try to make it a little more attractive to low level casters.
trentonjoe
Explorer
Re: Re: Re: Re: New spell - Blend the Insides
I don't think I would take it if it had a less than 50% chance.
How about 50% + 3% per level. I know the math becomes less attractive but I think a minimun of 50% is needed.
This way you start at 59% and max out at 18th level.
We are just arguing symantics and this point, just print the final version and getted it published so we can all be millionaires. Please include my name in credits.
drowdude said:
I don't think I would take it if it had a less than 50% chance.
How about 50% + 3% per level. I know the math becomes less attractive but I think a minimun of 50% is needed.
This way you start at 59% and max out at 18th level.
We are just arguing symantics and this point, just print the final version and getted it published so we can all be millionaires. Please include my name in credits.
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