D&D 5E New Spellcasting Blocks for Monsters --- Why?!

[Zubatcarteira]

According to Jeremy Crawford, each Magic Missile bolt counts as a different source of damage, so it's pretty op to break concentration or stack death save failures. Seen it used mostly for that.

 

[Charlaquin]

You guys realize that WoTC is slowly but surely streamlining D&D into a card game.

That is their area of expertise after all...

And they've already done a crossover. It's just a matter of time.

2008 called, they want their critique back.

 

[Helldritch]

1st level spells are worse than cantrips at high levels.

The low level spells are obsolete.

5th edition is designed so that as you level up your lower level spell slots are eclipsed by cantrips in damage.

If your monster comes back, he still isn't going to cast magic missile with a first level spell slot.

Just like the characters, low level slots becomes utility slots. Shield, Blur, Mirror images and so on. Non concentration spells are the best of course.

But having the option of unleashing a Magicissile at high level can be devastating to a wounded character. Versatility is not to be forgotten.

 

[beancounter]

2008 called, they want their critique back.

The end of D&D as we know it is nigh. Don't say I didn't warn you...

 

[Minigiant]

Just like the characters, low level slots becomes utility slots. Shield, Blur, Mirror images and so on. Non concentration spells are the best of course.

But having the option of unleashing a Magicissile at high level can be devastating to a wounded character. Versatility is not to be forgotten.

Again. You don't need the 1st level slot.

Just cast magic missile at 7th level with a 7th level slot

 

[Reynard]

Again. You don't need the 1st level slot.

Just cast magic missile at 7th level with a 7th level slot

This is actually an interesting question: has the change from "low level spells stay relevant" to "use a higher slot" been a net positive?

 

[beancounter]

Why?

If he can't cast them all in a fight without a TPK.

I guess I don't understand your comment. The monsters always try to TPK the party. That's the objective. Kill or be killed.

 

[Minigiant]

This is actually an interesting question: has the change from "low level spells stay relevant" to "use a higher slot" been a net positive?

Yes.

Stacking low level buffs because the spells deal low damage is how 3e broke.

 

[Helldritch]

I wasn't trying to be rude. I was explaining that there are hidden aspects of 5th edition that WOTC never explains. So without a deep dive into the books or advice by a veteran DM, you'd never understand these hidden elements.

Never assume that the person whom you are talking to is ignorant of these. Yes, many do not read the DMG, but for those that do, some changes that seems inconspicuous are actually a big change in the philosophy of the 5ed design.

Remember that 5ed was built with the players input and went for what the majority of that time wanted. Not everything that I or we wanted needed up in the 5ed. But it was mostly what we all wanted it to be. Now they are changing their stances and it is seen as a betrayal by many. If they want to make a new edition, let them go ahead but leave the premises of 5ed alone.

And guess what? I would buy 6ed in a heart beat. I would buy it with the monster stat block they are using now. I was a big fan of 4ed. And I recognize they way they are going in how they are doing things, but this is not the 5ed they had offered and promised. We got what we got and we were happy with it. If WotC really want a 4ed revised into 6ed,so be it. But they should go ahead and do it. Not that sneaking around like what they are doing right now.

 

[Helldritch]

Again. You don't need the 1st level slot.

Just cast magic missile at 7th level with a 7th level slot

Do not forget shield. Do not forget it. Or mirror image and any other low level spell. Do not tunnel vision the fact.that a magic missile can be upcast for a 7th level spell... It is but one possibility that spell slot offers.