No divine casters? Why don't vampires rule the world

[Zhure]

Assuming a homebrew world where there are no divine casters for certain campaign reasons, why wouldn't vampires and other high threat undead have taken over the world.

 

[arwink]

Because you can still beat the stuffin out of them with big swords, and wizards would probably start developing methods of slowing them down. Clerics are more efficient at undead, yes, but realistically if you take them away Undead are roughly as frightening as an elemental or plant based creature.

 

[Bagpuss]

hmmm daylight perhaps?

 

[s/LaSH]

Vampire weakness: Recoils from a strongly-presented holy symbol. That's about as vulnerable as a vamp gets to holy stuff, because they're normally high HD with extra turn resistance. It beats me why they haven't taken over settings with divine casters.

Anyway, what's to say the undead want to take over? A vamp is a predator; he hunts humans, and the only time he wants to rule humans is (a) if he's setting up a farm, or (b) if he were a megalomaniac in life; he certainly doesn't want to vamp everyone he sees, because then he can't eat (the ecology is skewed). A lich isn't concerned with temporal power; she's made a decision to pursue magical goals, and (except for the odd army of undead horrors) she will only bother mortals when they have something she wants.

Or maybe she'll rule the world as an eternal lich-empress, but that's unprecedented.

*cough*Gith*cough*

And what's to say the undead haven't taken over already? That would be fun for a homebrew... (I'm not doing it because the undead are important in a slightly different way in my campaign.)

 

[Celtavian]

Re

Both Sunburst and Sunbeam are wizard spells, though a cleric can access them if they have the Sun domain. Heck, even regular warriors could train to defeat vampires.

Vampires just aren't strong enough to defeat all the regular humans, even without divine casters.

 

[KDLadage]

hmmm daylight perhaps?

Exactly.

 

[Airwolf]

Assuming a homebrew world where there are no divine casters for certain campaign reasons, why wouldn't vampires and other high threat undead have taken over the world.

I just have one word for you Buffy!

 

[Sir Osis of Liver]

Psionics can be effective against undead. Sever the tie, and a bunch of fire and bludgeoning effects.

 

[dcollins]

...why wouldn't vampires and other high threat undead have taken over the world...

This is why:
http://www.stanford.edu/~bthomas/vamp/vampecology.htm

 

[I'm A Banana]

Because you have

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