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5E No Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting in development?


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KarinsDad

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Maybe earlier sales?

Campaign settings tend to sell mostly to DMs.

Plus, there are dozens of FR information sources from the last nearly 3 decades. It's not like their isn't a plethora of material out there.
 

DEFCON 1

Legend
Supporter
Yes, at a Tyranny of Dragons seminar here at GenCon Mike Mearls said a Realms campaign setting book won 't come out for quite a while. Reason being that they are trying to stop "proscibing" information about the Realms in a top-down omniscient view, but rather give info in stories and rumors so that players no longer have to feel like they need to run the Realms the "right" way due to official canon.

Case in point are the deities. The PH lists a whole heap of gods, many of which people inthe Realms would consider "dead". But while rumors across Faerun suggest some have come back... not many really know as of yet. And the designers want to allow the DMs to decide for themselves just which gods have returned or not.

At some point in the future they might bring all the info together into a book... but not any time soon. I would say not before 2016 at the earliest.
 


KarinsDad

First Post
I own most of the other FR materials... its just shocking to me....
No doubt.

If I was DMing (I'm playing instead), I would just pull out all of my old FR stuff and pick and chose what I wanted to use. As is, I will probably give that stack to my DM and say "Have at it". :erm:


Mental note: go find all of my old FR stuff... :D
 

Lord Blackstone

First Post
What really shocks me the most... if they aren't going to produce a Forgotten Realms Campaign Sourcebook anytime soon... what about all the other settings... This has seriously bummed me out.
 
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I am not really surprised by this given their general strategy to limit book and splat bloat. Although, if they produced a bunch of reasonably priced boxed sets with a bunch of maps in them and a 32 or 64 page booklet giving a broad overview of each setting as a DM tool, I might jump on each of those. Just give me the tools and I will figure out what to do with it. All the historical detail and what-not can be made available on the internet for those who want a more in depth look. I am not sure that a 400 page tome of hyperdetailed history really has enough of a market to deserve their investment in time and resources into developing.

Yeah, they could throw special classes, feats and spells unavailable anywhere else to get players to buy as well, but that is the total opposite of their stated plans for this edition.

I think it is a good call on their part.
 

Remathilis

Legend
What really shocks me the most... if they aren't going to produce a Forgotten Realms Campaign Sourcebook anytime soon... what about all the other settings... This has seriously bummed me out.
Whaa?!

If they are not going to support their primary setting (for modules and living gaming) I don't expect much for other settings.

Which is disappointing. Some settings don't need much (Greyhawk or Mystara) but some have some unique elements (Eberron's artificers, Dark Sun's defilers, Planescape's factions, Dragonlance's wizard orders and knighthoods) I'd like to see done. It's hard to say "Pick your own" when we don't have a mechanical way of expressing those things.

This is bodeing poorly for the "multiverse" aspect. :(
 

Lord Blackstone

First Post
Whaa?!

If they are not going to support their primary setting (for modules and living gaming) I don't expect much for other settings.

Which is disappointing. Some settings don't need much (Greyhawk or Mystara) but some have some unique elements (Eberron's artificers, Dark Sun's defilers, Planescape's factions, Dragonlance's wizard orders and knighthoods) I'd like to see done. It's hard to say "Pick your own" when we don't have a mechanical way of expressing those things.

This is bodeing poorly for the "multiverse" aspect. :(
Exactly. WTF... still shocked by this news.. it was the thing I was looking forward the most. I was under the impression that the Multiverse would take front and center in this edition...
 

Wolfskin

First Post
I'd bet real money we'll see FRCS during late 2015/early 2016.

"Not in development" doesn't mean "We ain't gonna do it".
 

Sonny

Explorer
Exactly. WTF... still shocked by this news.. it was the thing I was looking forward the most. I was under the impression that the Multiverse would take front and center in this edition...
It is possible that the first setting book will be a multiverse one. We know things like Warforged and Kender will be in the DMG. If you make a book that covers all unique mechanics from different settings and combine it with the setting PDFs, you could take care of many settings at once. Then proceed with large single campaign books later on.
 

Kai Lord

Explorer
AD&D 1E didn't give us the Dragonlance Adventures hardcover until 3 years after the modules started coming out. Ravenloft Campaign Box Set was years after its introductory module as well. I like the idea of them going back to giving you glimpses of worlds through modules and letting each gaming group fill in the blanks.
 

Lord Blackstone

First Post
I'd bet real money we'll see FRCS during late 2015/early 2016.

"Not in development" doesn't mean "We ain't gonna do it".
You are prolly right. I hope you are right.

Oy.....I am not usually susceptible to Nerd Rage but I came damn close to popping a blood vessel in my brain. rofl.. just frustrated....

Is it me or there unusual amount of no information coming out of GenCon this year? Anyone other than Enworld reporting the newest and greatest?
 

Jiggawatts

Explorer
I too am a little bummed about this. Personally I want full 300+ campaign setting books for the following:

Forgotten Realms
Dragonlance
Planescape
Ravenloft

And after that theres still Greyhawk, Eberron, Dark Sun, and possibly even Spelljammer, Mystara, and Birthright, all of which I wouldn't mind seeing as well. One of the things I was most excited about with this edition was the return of the multiverse, I really thought we were going to get multiple products for multiple worlds in the vein of 2E (though accomplished more soundly business-wise).
 

lkj

Adventurer
I suppose they could do a 'Year of Forgotten Realms', where they produce adventures and such for it, develop things through organized play, and then at the end put together a sourcebook 'for those who want to keep playing FR'. Then move on to the next setting and do the same thing.

Just a thought.

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Lord Blackstone

First Post
I too am a little bummed about this. Personally I want full 300+ campaign setting books for the following:

Forgotten Realms
Dragonlance
Planescape
Ravenloft

And after that theres still Greyhawk, Eberron, Dark Sun, and possibly even Spelljammer, Mystara, and Birthright, all of which I wouldn't mind seeing as well. One of the things I was most excited about with this edition was the return of the multiverse, I really thought we were going to get multiple products for multiple worlds in the vein of 2E (though accomplished more soundly business-wise).
This is what I am talking about.... 300+ page campaign settings with all the bells and whistles..... a monster manual for each setting... I am ready to throw lots of cash at this company...
 
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Wrathamon

Explorer
Ed Greenwood Present's the Forgotten Realms book doesn't have enough information? That was just released not too long ago. Plus you have all the previous versions of the book?

What do you need? NPC stat blocks?
 

DaveMage

Slumbering in Tsar
Interesting!

This explains why they are referring folks to get the 3E or 4E Realms campaign settings.

Can you now play the new FR adventures in any era? What a fascinating idea!
 

Lord Blackstone

First Post
Ed Greenwood Present's the Forgotten Realms book doesn't have enough information? That was just released not too long ago. Plus you have all the previous versions of the book?

What do you need? NPC stat blocks?
I love Ed Greenwood Presents book. Great read and lots of fun. Anyway.

Honestly, I just want something new to read.

Kara Tur... its been years since that this has been dealt with...

Al Qadim... ditto...

Maztica... reportedly back on Toril.. just how that society is different since being on Abeir.

Abier.... Toril's twin... ruled by primordials.. sounds interesting as hell to me...

Otherlands on Toril... basically the north and south america version of Toril.... Very interested in this..

Whether this ever makes it out.. who knows... but sounds like a lot of fun for me.
 

samursus

Explorer
And remember...

A FR sourcebook would not need a ton of development time, IMO. So just because there is not one in development at the moment, that might not mean much.

Basically, I figure it would be %90 fluff to %10 crunch. And they could probably crank that out in 3 months or less (pulling numbers out of my ***).

Edit: And I expect with their story bibles, they already know mostly what is going on in the Realms this edition.
 
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