No more Captain Picard?

[Viking Bastard]

I did say wannabe y'know, which it was.

The core thought behind the whole movie was to reintroduce the
Khan mechanic (just without realizing really what it was all about).
Every interview with everyone who was in any connected to the
movie said: "Khan, Khan, Khan, Khan, Khan!"

Now FC, that is the only TNG movie that felt like, well, a motion
picture, when it was actually trying to go into a completely new
direction than the other movies. Funny, that when they did, they
were able to capture a lot of what made the 'Khan Mechanic' work.

I don't think that anyone in charge of the franchise has any idea
what made movies like tWoK, TUC and FC actually work.

 

[Ranger REG]

Actually, Berman was in charge of the franchise when TUC and FC were produced. But since then, they've forgotten what makes a good Star Trek film.

 

[Viking Bastard]

Oh I know he was, but I still think he has no idea what made those movies tick.

Until INS, NEM and ENT Berman has always been rather 'hands-off'.
Just the guy that takes care of the paperwork. TUC came completely
from Nick Meyer I think, while FC was mostly from the mind of Ron
Moore (I think, rather than Piller). Braga cowrote the script but from
what I'm told, Moore was the boss.

Berman on the other hand, has no idea what makes a good Trek
movie, I suspect.

 

[Eridanis]

Here's a crazy idea. What if Paramount OK'd a movie that was set in the ST universe, but with a completely new set of characters? (Outside of a cameo or two, maybe.) A new ship, new place to go, in the rich universe that has been laid out over the years. Get an established SF writer to write the story or the script, and get a solid director to helm it. Set it two hundred years after NEMESIS, and make it onboard the first Federation mission to another galaxy.

This wil happen soon after I sprout wings and fly to the moon, but it's worth dreaming about, right?

(Fair disclosure: Nemesis was the first Trek movie I didn't see in the theatre. Didn't even try to see it; I could smell it, even standing upwind. Looking forward to renting it, though.)

 

[mojo1701]

Remember what Q said:

Originally said byQ:

Humans aren't even supposed to be in this quadrant for another 100 years! - Q: Death Wish

 

[Chun-tzu]

Here's a crazy idea. What if Paramount OK'd a movie that was set in the ST universe, but with a completely new set of characters? (Outside of a cameo or two, maybe.) A new ship, new place to go, in the rich universe that has been laid out over the years. Get an established SF writer to write the story or the script, and get a solid director to helm it.

I'd take it a step further and throw in some star power there. Get some of those popular actors who have yet to establish a solid movie career, like Matthew Perry or Jennifer Aniston (maybe not the best examples, this is just off the top of my head). There are two important reasons to do this:

1) Stars fill the seats. A lot of people will go see a movie based more on who's in it than what it's about. This might also help pull the movies away from that "this feels like a 2-hour episode at best" feel.
2) With a brand-new cast, non-Trekkers won't feel like they've missed out on too much, even if they've never seen a Star Trek movie before.

 

[Ranger REG]

Here's a crazy idea. What if Paramount OK'd a movie that was set in the ST universe, but with a completely new set of characters? (Outside of a cameo or two, maybe.) A new ship, new place to go, in the rich universe that has been laid out over the years. Get an established SF writer to write the story or the script, and get a solid director to helm it. Set it two hundred years after NEMESIS, and make it onboard the first Federation mission to another galaxy.

This wil happen soon after I sprout wings and fly to the moon, but it's worth dreaming about, right?

Under current franchise leadership, I would still be skeptical of the new film premise. IMHO, we all got burned since the last two films, even with the last film when they hired an award-winning scribe to Gladiator. To this day, I cannot believe John Logan (the scribe) transformed a worthy adversary to the Federation into a bunch of wussies, allowing a small bunch of second-class subject citizens to take over the Senate and the central Romulan government authority, without so much of a civil war.

 

[Mark]

Under current franchise leadership, I would still be skeptical of the new film premise. IMHO, we all got burned since the last two films, even with the last film when they hired an award-winning scribe to Gladiator. To this day, I cannot believe John Logan (the scribe) transformed a worthy adversary to the Federation into a bunch of wussies, allowing a small bunch of second-class subject citizens to take over the Senate and the central Romulan government authority, without so much of a civil war.

I was under the impression that Brent Spiner wrote a portion of the script...

 

[Umbran]

I was under the impression that Brent Spiner wrote a portion of the script...

Brent Spiner is partly responsible for the story, along with Berman and Logan. The screenplay writing credit is for Logan alone.

I'm not a big detractor of Nemesis. Kind of liked it, myself. But I don'tthink anyone should be surprised if Logan wrote a stinker. Because, awards notwithstanding, Gladiator wasn't really that great a film.

Remember, there is no accounting for taste.

 

[Viking Bastard]

John Logan did not really "write" the Gladiator script.

He rewrote it. He simplified it and shortened it so the movie
wouldn't be too long. He also streamlined the dialouge.

And this I have from an old interview with the man himself.

A movie script he wrote from scratch, though, is Bats, not
exactly the epitome of cinematic greatness.