The Shaman
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*sigh*
Here we go again.
Again, how much more did it need to be? What, in your opinion, is missing?
Tactical movement for ships should've been given in tabletop units as well as miles per hour, but I seem to recall it taking about a minute to convert between the two. If that.
It really helps these discussions when the participants actually understand what it is they're criticizing.
Here we go again.
That's two pages relating specifically to travel at sea, which are used in conjunction with the hundreds of other pages of rules which already apply to the things characters may do when they're on a ship as well as the pages and pages of monsters which are found in marine and aquatic environments.The 1e rules do cover that stuff, but in very little detail (all of the rules for waterborne adventure fill exactly two pages) . . .
Again, how much more did it need to be? What, in your opinion, is missing?
Overland travel for both land and sea travel is give in miles per day (1e AD&D DMG, "Outdoor Movement," p. 58), so "all" is overstating things a bit.. . . and some of the specifics seem like they weren't thought out too well (e.g., ship movement is given in miles per hour, rather than in tabletop units as all other movement in the game . . .
Tactical movement for ships should've been given in tabletop units as well as miles per hour, but I seem to recall it taking about a minute to convert between the two. If that.
Hull Values are equivalent to the Defensive Point Values used in sieges (1e AD&D DMG, "Construction Defense Values," p. 110). They are not the same thing as hit points used by characters and monsters.. . . large ships have fewer HPs than most mid-level characters . . .
You are of course entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts.IMO, the AD&D rules for waterborne adventure are woefully inadequate as written. With some house ruling, though, they'd be passable (just passable, though, not good and certainly not great). Like I said, though, YMMV.
It really helps these discussions when the participants actually understand what it is they're criticizing.