Hand of Vecna
First Post
From Ultimate Power:
Not many cases where I'd see this working, but there could be some. Two that pop to my mind are a D&D-style Energy Drain/Negative Levels, or certain powers built as "Super-Skills" (like Mind Reading done as uber-Sense Motive face-reading, or Mind Control as uber-Bluff "cinematic seduction").
Green Ronin said:NO SAVING THROW (+2 MODIFIER)
An effect that normally allows a saving throw does not do so with the application of this modifier. Essentially, the target is assumed to automatically fail the effect’s usual save. If applied to a staged effect, the target receives a saving throw, but the effect has its minimum possible effect (that of failing the save by 1) even if the save succeeds.
Immunity (and any other effect where a saving throw succeeds automatically) trumps this modifier; targets immune to an effect are equally immune to No Saving Throw versions of that effect.
Not many cases where I'd see this working, but there could be some. Two that pop to my mind are a D&D-style Energy Drain/Negative Levels, or certain powers built as "Super-Skills" (like Mind Reading done as uber-Sense Motive face-reading, or Mind Control as uber-Bluff "cinematic seduction").