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5E Not in the DMG

Anth

Villager
I have seen lot of rumors about things that will not be included in the DMG, but I haven't found info directly from WotC (maybe my Google-Fu is weak).

Which things (if any) has WotC confirmed will not be included in the DMG? And where will they appear instead?
 

mcbobbo

Villager
I can answer the second part: There is no 'instead'.

WotC has made it clear they are trying something different this time around. The TRPG is now just a part of the D&D brand. Once you have the three books and HotDQ/RoT, you're done buying books from them (for the year at least). They suggest you check out the MMO, comics, etc, if you still need a D&D fix.
 

fjw70

Explorer
I can answer the second part: There is no 'instead'.

WotC has made it clear they are trying something different this time around. The TRPG is now just a part of the D&D brand. Once you have the three books and HotDQ/RoT, you're done buying books from them (for the year at least). They suggest you check out the MMO, comics, etc, if you still need a D&D fix.
If by tear you mean 2014 then yes, but the next AP will be coming in March 2015. WotC hasn't announced this yet (I don't think) but their partner has. That AP also has an Adventurer's Guide to accompany it.
 

Morrus

Administrator
Staff member
I have seen lot of rumors about things that will not be included in the DMG, but I haven't found info directly from WotC (maybe my Google-Fu is weak).

Which things (if any) has WotC confirmed will not be included in the DMG? And where will they appear instead?
I don't think they've made specific statements like "X will not be in the DMG". They have, however, revealed what will be in the DMG, which might help narrow it down for you if you're looking for something specific.

Actually, I'm slightly wrong - Mike Mearls has confirmed that conversion guides for previous editions will be online as free PDFs, not in the DMG.
 

mcbobbo

Villager
If by tear you mean 2014 then yes, but the next AP will be coming in March 2015. WotC hasn't announced this yet (I don't think) but their partner has. That AP also has an Adventurer's Guide to accompany it.
Not sure what you're driving at. I wouldn't necessarily expect AP content to be in the DMG. I do expect to see third party adventures, blog posts and the like, but I understand WotC themselves is afraid of releasing more books than people will actually buy.

I'd go find the quotes were I not on my phone...
 

jodyjohnson

Villager
Things not appearing in the DMG - Confirmed

1. Elf Porn - instead will be appearing on the internet
2. Orc Porn - hopefully not appearing anywhere
3. A secret compartment - or is there, make a Search check DC 30
4. A large wad of $20s - if you see one let me know, it's probably mine
5. Something you wanted - see 1.
 

TerraDave

5ever
Is this a trick question?

From what we know, all the obvious stuff that would in a DMG...is in it. I guess we might not have pages detailing hirelings, guidance on making ravenloft style 3d perspective maps, critical hit and fumble tables, a weather generation system (though we might actually have a simple one), an extended discussion of governance and social class (again, you never know), rules for modern/future vehicle combat or radiation damage and mutation, psionics (sort of in MM, and actually could be something in the DMG), rules for "epic levels" (again, can't be sure)...

We may see this stuff at some point somewhere. Though probably in the context of particularly "story". A set of adventures for Dark Sun could add psionics, more on mass combat, gladiator fights, harsher survival rules, dramatic crits, and so on.
 

Anth

Villager
Is this a trick question?
Sorry, I was unclear.
I'm not interested what will/won't be in the DMG - because that is a meaningless question.
I'm only interested in what WotC confirmed won't be in the DMG, like the conversion guides Morrus mentioned.
 

Flexor the Mighty!

18/100 Strength!
If by tear you mean 2014 then yes, but the next AP will be coming in March 2015. WotC hasn't announced this yet (I don't think) but their partner has. That AP also has an Adventurer's Guide to accompany it.
Are they only doing adventure paths now? Will stand alone modules be 3rd party only? Have they ever said what is going to happen to Dungeon?
 

Parmandur

Adventurer
Their stated model at this point is big APs with supplements to the APs (classes, races etc relevant to the AP) tied into multimedia events (MMOs and such).
 

Flexor the Mighty!

18/100 Strength!
For the most part my group is more of a sandbox type instead of one major overarching plot. Hopefully they have a system of robust 3rd party support, or get Dungeon going again. I'm going to run the Tyranny of Dragons to get our feet wet in 5e but really I'd rather do smaller modules that can be connected or not connected. I will make a lot of stuff up myself, or convert older stuff, but I'd like to be able to drop in a publish adventure when I lack time to do more. The multimedia stuff isn't anything I'm interested in.
 

TerraDave

5ever
Their stated model at this point is big APs with supplements to the APs (classes, races etc relevant to the AP) tied into multimedia events (MMOs and such).
This is exactly their strategy, but yes, it doesn't seem like quite enough. A Fiend Folio, Unearthed Arcana, Deities and Demigods, free standing adventures, don't fit this model, but it might be nice to see them.
 

Morrus

Administrator
Staff member
Their stated model at this point is big APs with supplements to the APs (classes, races etc relevant to the AP) tied into multimedia events (MMOs and such).
"Stated model" is going a bit far. It's what Princes of the Apocalypse is, sure, but that doesn't mean there won't be yearly hardback books or magazines or other standalone adventures or anything. There's not enough data to extrapolate any kind of ongoing model yet.
 

sidonunspa

Villager
"Stated model" is going a bit far. It's what Princes of the Apocalypse is, sure, but that doesn't mean there won't be yearly hardback books or magazines or other standalone adventures or anything. There's not enough data to extrapolate any kind of ongoing model yet.
I think I know what they have in mind

They plan to have some OGL like structure but though a market place of their own.

think of it as a iTunes for D&D, they get a small cut, all products are a mininum of 0.99 but you can charge what you want.... they get a cut.

of course they would have final say on which products they can accept and sell, which gives them the "D&D stamp of aproval"

yes this is all conjecture, but it's what I have been able to peace together from diffrent conversations at conventions and at the bar
 

DanielPryor

Villager
I get the impression from what I've read that they basically plan to maybe do more monster manuals but that they expect DMs to convert stuff over from 3.5 and pathfinder, etc. That's why they are putting up their formulas etc online so that people like me can convert them. If you think about it, they don't need to reinvent the wheel here guys, just convert. That's the new mantra, "Convert, convert, convert..."

I like this idea so that I don't have to go out and feel like I need to buy all new stuff, just the core books. My only problem is going to be converting all the monsters over and the spells and some magic items.

Also, as far as 4E stuff goes (and this includes the Forgotten Realms setting), They've seem to completely ditched it and are telling people to "move on" and ignore it all, which is fine by me. They seem to have incorporated everything that was interesting and worked in 4E anyway.
 

Morrus

Administrator
Staff member
I think I know what they have in mind

They plan to have some OGL like structure but though a market place of their own.

think of it as a iTunes for D&D, they get a small cut, all products are a mininum of 0.99 but you can charge what you want.... they get a cut.

of course they would have final say on which products they can accept and sell, which gives them the "D&D stamp of aproval"

yes this is all conjecture, but it's what I have been able to peace together from diffrent conversations at conventions and at the bar
Yeah, the iTunes model has been bandied about a bit over the last couple of years. It doesn't tie in well with their current relationship with DTRPG, though.
 

aramis erak

Explorer
If by tear you mean 2014 then yes, but the next AP will be coming in March 2015. WotC hasn't announced this yet (I don't think) but their partner has. That AP also has an Adventurer's Guide to accompany it.
Yes, they have... well through the calendar on the D&DAL website, at least.
 

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