Nyambe -- D20 Fantasy Africa -- When?
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JoeGKushner
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Is there a table of contents? Any previews outside of what's coming in Gaming Frontier?
JohnNephew
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back from GTS
At the GAMA Trade Show, we announced NYAMBE: AFRICAN ADVENTURES as a release for August. I'm at home now and don't have all the materials, but we settled on various details -- e.g., $37.95 US SRP, hardcover with 256 pp (16 of them full color), stock # and ISBN, etc. The response from retailers was very positive, particularly since it does not seem anyone is doing anything African.
I also got a copy of GF#2, and enjoyed seeing the NYAMBE monster outtakes. Also in the works is an EN ROUTE-style encounter for GAME TRADE MAGAZINE (I met with Andrew from GTM in Vegas, and our plan is to have the encounter in the June issue; that may change, as always).
-John Nephew
President, Atlas Games
At the GAMA Trade Show, we announced NYAMBE: AFRICAN ADVENTURES as a release for August. I'm at home now and don't have all the materials, but we settled on various details -- e.g., $37.95 US SRP, hardcover with 256 pp (16 of them full color), stock # and ISBN, etc. The response from retailers was very positive, particularly since it does not seem anyone is doing anything African.
I also got a copy of GF#2, and enjoyed seeing the NYAMBE monster outtakes. Also in the works is an EN ROUTE-style encounter for GAME TRADE MAGAZINE (I met with Andrew from GTM in Vegas, and our plan is to have the encounter in the June issue; that may change, as always).
-John Nephew
President, Atlas Games
CaptainCalico
Community Supporter
Wow!
I'm so glad Nyambe is coming out in print! (and I'm really glad the author has hooked up with a company that seems to be taking good care of his work).
Will Atlas be a GenCon - with the Nyambe book for sale???
I'm so glad Nyambe is coming out in print! (and I'm really glad the author has hooked up with a company that seems to be taking good care of his work).
Will Atlas be a GenCon - with the Nyambe book for sale???
JohnNephew
First Post
Re: Wow!
That's the plan!
CaptainCalico said:
That's the plan!
Kanegrundar
Explorer
Wow! That is one expensive book
No offense meant, but how is this book going to cost $38? That's as expensive as the Star Wars Core Rules, and that book has more pages (315) and is color througout. (However, I still this the SW book is way overpriced as well.) I was quite interested in the setting, but I fear the price tag will keep me away. At least with the SW book, I knew I would like the setting (even if I didn't truly agree with some of the rules) so paying the price didn't hurt quite as bad. Paying $38 for a setting that may never see the light of day is a hard pill to swallow.
My .02 cents.
Kiser
No offense meant, but how is this book going to cost $38? That's as expensive as the Star Wars Core Rules, and that book has more pages (315) and is color througout. (However, I still this the SW book is way overpriced as well.) I was quite interested in the setting, but I fear the price tag will keep me away. At least with the SW book, I knew I would like the setting (even if I didn't truly agree with some of the rules) so paying the price didn't hurt quite as bad. Paying $38 for a setting that may never see the light of day is a hard pill to swallow.
My .02 cents.
Kiser
2WS-Steve
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My personal feeling is elite products command elite prices. If this gives me everything I need to run either a campaign in and African style setting or take my players on an excursion to an Africa-like part of my campaign world then it's something I'll be able to keep coming back to and using over the next few years and that's the sort of product that sneaks into the elite camp. I'll spend $40 for d20 CoC and likewise for d20 Delta Green if that makes it out.
JohnNephew
First Post
Re: Wow! That is one expensive book
Hi, Kiser -- I appreciate the feedback, and take no offense. ;-)
As a small publisher, our current standard pricing on a 256-page hardcover (B&W interior only) is $35 -- e.g., the Feng Shui RPG. Nyambe is the same size, but 16 of the interior pages will be full color. We mean to make the book worth every penny, both in attractive production and in meaty content.
Frankly, WotC can run circles around us on pricing. The print run of the Star Wars rulebook was probably, wild guess, 20 or 30 times the number of copies we'll print of Nyambe. Those kind of numbers mean they can print it all in full color, with more pages, charge less, and still make more profit on each copy. If we used the same markup-over-printing-cost that WotC does...well, you'd probably have a heart attack. ;-)
On the bright side, if you like to "try before you buy," you should drop by www.nyambe.com to download the early draft Player's Lorebook. It does not have nearly as much as the finished product will have -- but it's a free download. I certainly would not want anyone to make a big investment in a book that they are not sure they will use or enjoy, and we wanted Chris to keep the ol' PDF available precisely so people could evaluate it in depth.
(If anyone is truly curious, I can probably find earlier postings I've written on the net with some of the specifics of the costs of game book manufacturing and pricing, though the numbers I used in the one big posting I did on the topic are at least a year old.)
-John Nephew
President, Atlas Games
Kanegrundar said:
Hi, Kiser -- I appreciate the feedback, and take no offense. ;-)
As a small publisher, our current standard pricing on a 256-page hardcover (B&W interior only) is $35 -- e.g., the Feng Shui RPG. Nyambe is the same size, but 16 of the interior pages will be full color. We mean to make the book worth every penny, both in attractive production and in meaty content.
Frankly, WotC can run circles around us on pricing. The print run of the Star Wars rulebook was probably, wild guess, 20 or 30 times the number of copies we'll print of Nyambe. Those kind of numbers mean they can print it all in full color, with more pages, charge less, and still make more profit on each copy. If we used the same markup-over-printing-cost that WotC does...well, you'd probably have a heart attack. ;-)
On the bright side, if you like to "try before you buy," you should drop by www.nyambe.com to download the early draft Player's Lorebook. It does not have nearly as much as the finished product will have -- but it's a free download. I certainly would not want anyone to make a big investment in a book that they are not sure they will use or enjoy, and we wanted Chris to keep the ol' PDF available precisely so people could evaluate it in depth.
(If anyone is truly curious, I can probably find earlier postings I've written on the net with some of the specifics of the costs of game book manufacturing and pricing, though the numbers I used in the one big posting I did on the topic are at least a year old.)
-John Nephew
President, Atlas Games
