Obsidian and The Outer Worlds expose Bethesda as the frauds they are and have been

[Kaodi]

Some of you appear to be doing a bit of an apples to oranges comparison where you are counting games Obsidian develops against games Bethesda develops OR publishes. Personally I have not even had a chance to play Fallout 4 yet so I cannot comment directly on "decline" from 3 to 4, but I have no interest in '76 at all. I think Starfield is going to be their next big in house game, and depending on how that goes maybe there will be a case to be made that they went off a cliff somewhere along the way. But when TES VI comes out - if they eff that up, they will possibly have done themselves in.

 

[GreyLord]

Some thoughts...

Someone listed Doom 2016 as a Bethesda game. Then Fallout New Vegas was also discussed.

Isn't this the same scenario though...Bethesda was the publisher of both of them.

Doom 2016 was developed by ID soft, and Fallout New Vegas was developed by Obsidian.

In that light, if one is not counting FNV as a Bethesda game, I don't think someone could count Doom16 as a Bethesda game either.

Are people discussing Bethesda as a Developer and publisher (what I thought was being discussed) or just the publisher?

Same with Obsidian?

With the exception of some of the games they've developed in-house recently, I don't see Bethesda having difficulties yet. With Bethesda as a publisher I think there are many people looking forward to Doom Eternal.

I think many are glad about Obsidian's Outer Worlds being published who were disappointed with Fallout 76, but I haven't heard of any bad blood between Obsidian or Bethesda. Is there bad blood for any reason? I would have thought they saw each other as publishers and developers that have worked together in the past rather than anything else.

 

[trappedslider]

What bug was that? I never seemed to have a problem on PC

It's a crash around Greentech genetics,some folks have it,some don't,some say one thing causes it,some say another.