Off To War... Recriutment/Discussion
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HolyMan
Thy wounds are healed!
@DW Vance is a second son as well and thinks himslf a lord I guess it all has to do with prospective. And if he keeps calling you lord long enough you may just become one (look at the character Perrin in The Wheel of Time series LOL).
@Gm background looks great will add 250xp to your Rg post (that's 255 to start) Also I would say you are from Fanshaw it is full of merchants and nobility and I like the tourneys you talked about that could be the national past time there. And thanks for the hombrewed sblock.
HM
@Gm background looks great will add 250xp to your Rg post (that's 255 to start) Also I would say you are from Fanshaw it is full of merchants and nobility and I like the tourneys you talked about that could be the national past time there. And thanks for the hombrewed sblock.
HM
Dragonwriter
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I never have read the Wheel of Time series... It's another one on my to-read list. 
Somewhere after Pern and the Deryni and Thomas Covenant...
Honestly, Jareth doesn't really want the title of Lord, however cool I think it would be. He doesn't want to get all the special attention that tends to come with nobles, and he sees it as another connection to his father.
Title and Rank come hand in hand. They were each connected to the inheritance, which went to the first son. A second son would only get recognition if his older brother died, without heirs. Courtesy titles were non-existent. We are talking about the Dark Ages, after all.
(If you can show me something (non-fiction, of course) that the second son got something big when his older brother was still alive, and capable of taking the family's estate duties, go ahead and post it/let me know, as it would be much appreciated. Right now, I'm basing it off my old medieval studies and what I've learned with my historical recreation group.)
Jareth would be afforded some stuff growing up, as he would still be cared for as a noble's son, but apart from family connections, he really wouldn't be given anything afterward. On occasion he could get a favor from his brother, but that would not be common.
Somewhere after Pern and the Deryni and Thomas Covenant...Honestly, Jareth doesn't really want the title of Lord, however cool I think it would be. He doesn't want to get all the special attention that tends to come with nobles, and he sees it as another connection to his father.
Title and Rank come hand in hand. They were each connected to the inheritance, which went to the first son. A second son would only get recognition if his older brother died, without heirs. Courtesy titles were non-existent. We are talking about the Dark Ages, after all.
(If you can show me something (non-fiction, of course) that the second son got something big when his older brother was still alive, and capable of taking the family's estate duties, go ahead and post it/let me know, as it would be much appreciated. Right now, I'm basing it off my old medieval studies and what I've learned with my historical recreation group.)
Jareth would be afforded some stuff growing up, as he would still be cared for as a noble's son, but apart from family connections, he really wouldn't be given anything afterward. On occasion he could get a favor from his brother, but that would not be common.
Myth and Legend
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It is my understanding that the second, third and so on brother received his family name, the family crest and the opportunity to become the heir apparent of his noble house and estate. He does not, however, recieve any of the lands or estates unless so granted by the current head of the noble house.
Hence it was quite common for third or fourth sons to take up the knightly profession, as their nobleborn titles granted them both the funds to purchase good armour, weapons and horses, hire a squire and page, and of course, protect them in case of defeat (noble knights were almost always ransomed if captured as hostages, instead of simply put to the axe like the levy)
So the lord of Surrey is "My Lord Surrey" but his brother is still Ser James Surrey for example. And should he marry he would continue his family name.
Hence it was quite common for third or fourth sons to take up the knightly profession, as their nobleborn titles granted them both the funds to purchase good armour, weapons and horses, hire a squire and page, and of course, protect them in case of defeat (noble knights were almost always ransomed if captured as hostages, instead of simply put to the axe like the levy)
So the lord of Surrey is "My Lord Surrey" but his brother is still Ser James Surrey for example. And should he marry he would continue his family name.
HolyMan
Thy wounds are healed!
No I just need to remeber you have a base XP of 255 that I will add to this Sat should be no problem I am forgetful but not that bad. you should add your tital xp together after every XP posting which I do the 1st and 16th of every month.
@DW well remember also that having some lords stay at your home is an honor and Harkon being out of the way doesn't get that honor often. So he will lord you mostly because of in his eyes your are of noble blood and that demands respect.
Now when you get back to camp you will be regular old Jareth again.
HM
Dragonwriter
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@DW well remember also that having some lords stay at your home is an honor and Harkon being out of the way doesn't get that honor often. So he will lord you mostly because of in his eyes your are of noble blood and that demands respect.
Now when you get back to camp you will be regular old Jareth again.
HM
Okay. That'll be just fine. And until then, Jareth will keep denying his family's title, since he doesn't believe/doesn't want to believe his older brother is dead.
