Off To War... Recriutment/Discussion

[Theroc]

Holyman, did you catch my edit? Theres a thread I started seeking additional information regarding the reasons Warlock isn't broken.

http://www.enworld.org/forum/d-d-3rd-edition-rules/260698-warlocks-being-broken.html

Edit: Fluffwise, the Warlocks are tapping into a Font of magical power the came from some supernatural source, be it Fey(faeries, Nymphs, etc..) or Infernal(Demons), or Abyssal(Devils), or what have you. I planned to reskin it as Draconic heritage to tie into the Dragon Disciple PrC.

Also, the Invocations are generally slightly weaker than spells, but have longer durations(some 24hrs) and yes... there is no limit to how many times a Warlock may cast them.

At Crystalkeep, the Invocations list is down by the PDF's with the spell lists.

 

[HolyMan]

Just caught the edit and will head over to thread should we continue this there?

What page in the pdf are these unlimitless powers I still don't see them.

And that little spell is definitely over powered for lvl1 who would take any cure serious or criticals? or any really that would be the only spell needed you don't have to worry about rolling to low

 

[Theroc]

Just caught the edit and will head over to thread should we continue this there?

We can continue here if you'd like.

What page in the pdf are these unlimitless powers I still don't see them.

When you're at the webpage, before you click any of the PDF files, scroll down to the spell Index Files(Not the general Index files, where you found the class itself), where it lists the different spells by class, or by alphabetical order, etc... at the bottom is one called 'Warlock Invocations'

It's its own separate listing.

And that little spell is definitely over powered for lvl1 who would take any cure serious or criticals? or any really that would be the only spell needed you don't have to worry about rolling to low

Well, the Vigor spells would DEFINITELY be the new Cure X Wounds, but I do see a time where those would be more useful. If the person ended up getting near death and a monster was still hitting the player, you'd need a more abrupt boost to prevent a finishing blow. However, for generic healing, the Vigor Line is far superior.

 

[HolyMan]

I saw a vigor like spell in Pathfinder I was thinking of allowing but no cleric character as of yet

checking thanks was still under classes pdf it listed some spells there

 

[Theroc]

checking thanks was still under classes pdf it listed some spells there

Yeah, it's slightly counter-intuitive, but I think they did that because they wanted to explain a bit more about invocations, and didn't wanna clutter the listing with the classes.

 

[HolyMan]

can't make sense of the invocations as the when you get them and which you can take is in one area and the spells themselves are massed together in the other maybe sleep will help

also looked over Dragon Disiple:

1.Don't like that it forces people to take sorcerer or bard(or gnome lol) everyone should have a way to get every PrC (but the cast arcane unprepared is limited)
2.I would give the option to take and gain the ability to cast an arcane spell without prep instead of a feat choice or other ability or change the prerequiste like I said all class should beable to follow a PrC its just some have an eaiser road
3.And it looks that as you advance you take on dragonlike apperance but says nothing about mannerisms or the effects of age and other fluff stuff I like

I am getting old at this D&D used to just like crawling in dungeons and beating monsters up for their magic and gold.

 

[Theroc]

can't make sense of the invocations as the when you get them and which you can take is in one area and the spells themselves are massed together in the other maybe sleep will help

also looked over Dragon Disiple:

1.Don't like that it forces people to take sorcerer or bard(or gnome lol) everyone should have a way to get every PrC (but the cast arcane unprepared is limited)
2.I would give the option to take and gain the ability to cast an arcane spell without prep instead of a feat choice or other ability or change the prerequiste like I said all class should beable to follow a PrC its just some have an eaiser road
3.And it looks that as you advance you take on dragonlike apperance but says nothing about mannerisms or the effects of age and other fluff stuff I like

I am getting old at this D&D used to just like crawling in dungeons and beating monsters up for their magic and gold.

1. I don't like that either, which was why I was hoping that it could be made compatible with the Warlock class.
2. That could work too, but a single spell once a day wouldn't really be worth a feat.
3. You're right, it doesn't. I think that's my job to determine how it will affect my character (which will depend largely how the slow changes will affect those around Aidan, how they respond to him).

lol, well, I'm fine with that too, but getting stronger and doing cool things is part of my fun too.

 

[HolyMan]

Was not thinking a feat swap for a spell once per day but more like:

1+ cha/int/wis modifier per day caster lvl equals 1/4 your character lvl unless you have the spell on a class spell list then equals 1/2 your character lvl

Then when you get dragon disciple you could with the bonus spell effect:
a.Get an extra casting/day of a spell known or
b.Gain a new spell at once per day( no modifier for this new spell)

you gain limited casting which is ok from a feat/ability swap about the same depends on ability of course

oh and can't wait for the posts as Aidan changes:
Martomum: "Taught I's saw ye clip 'dem nails yesterdays? Why's the so longs again today?"

LOL will diffently be fun

 

[ghostcat]

Hey Erwinfoxjj, was wondering why your sblocks didn't work in the Search in the dark?

very weird

WOW this was my 400th post was wondering when that would happen lol

Because he used a backslash \ instead of a forward slash /

 

[Frozen Messiah]

Do you want to play using your skills or your sword to defeat the enemies of the Prime material Plane?

I must let you know that the ability to search for traps is not a fair swap for a potential +10,+2,+2,+2,+2 sorry

And I don't believe I could let someone have both sneak attack and favored enemy in the same class have to dual class for some mega damage like that.

Hey just let me know what you are thinking the concept is good lets just get a kool character together.

What does your stat buy look like first?

HM

After reading what your ruling was on this I see that you are right but are all the other swaps alright?

What if trapfinding was swapped for the ability to sneak attack undead? or detect evil?

Here are my stats:

STR:11
DEX:14
CON:11
INT:15
WIS:16
CHA:13

I feel a more skilled based approach to this character, something like a trained group of inflitrators who can rat out evil within society.