Off To War... Recriutment/Discussion

[HolyMan]

High Frozen Messiah,

I am sorry buy this early on a warforge isn't allowed, actually everyone has to be human to start. But I may allow hexblade I have let in other non-phb classes but I will need a pdf or attachment of the class to check first. Or using the custom rules you could make your own hexblade like character.

Just let me know if you are interested and then post a concept.

 

[HolyMan]

Experience July 16th-Aug 14th

I'm actually a day early should have waited but no biggie I promised you guys so I don't want to let you down. Special Note looks like Theroc and Myth and Legend got massive xp due to roleplaying posts and probably being only two players those in the Search in the Dark thread shouldn't worry I believe once you complete your mission (find the Outrider) that bonus experience will equal things out nicely.

Shinn          140xp
Trinham        270xp
Loreen         425xp
Athos          140xp
Hralfgar       265xp
Aidan          395xp
Damon          285xp

remember this is not your totals you can find them in the RG it is just what you have earned since July 15th

will post tommorrow morning early

 

[Frozen Messiah]

High Frozen Messiah,

I am sorry buy this early on a warforge isn't allowed, actually everyone has to be human to start. But I may allow hexblade I have let in other non-phb classes but I will need a pdf or attachment of the class to check first. Or using the custom rules you could make your own hexblade like character.

Just let me know if you are interested and then post a concept.

I am quite interested just after reading all of the action in the camp and not even touching on what is happening in the forest

It's fine I just found inspiration in a movie to play a a human rogue with empahasis on being efficient in combat and finding his targets outside of combat

 

[HolyMan]

Will then Welcome Aboard Frozen Messiah,(may I all you FM or Froze? We try to be informal here)

If you need anything please ask and pst your character here first so we can give him a looks over before putting in the RG

have fun making your character


HM

 

[Frozen Messiah]

Hunter of the Damned

alright, I took a little time to build this with the rules of swapping out (if fav. enemy is to strong I'll switch it for feats)

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Base Class: Rogue
Changes:
Trapfinding -> Favourite enemy (undead or evil outsiders)
Disable Device -> Knowledge(religion) (if chose undead) or Knowledge(planes) (if chose evil outsider)
Appraise -> Spellcraft
Armor proficiency -> Wis to AC
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I'm hoping for a Van Helsing feel to this but being stealthy and using what is at hand to finish the mission

FM is fine

 

[HolyMan]

Why Rogue as Base?

Do you want to play using your skills or your sword to defeat the enemies of the Prime material Plane?

I must let you know that the ability to search for traps is not a fair swap for a potential +10,+2,+2,+2,+2 sorry

And I don't believe I could let someone have both sneak attack and favored enemy in the same class have to dual class for some mega damage like that.

Hey just let me know what you are thinking the concept is good lets just get a kool character together.

What does your stat buy look like first?

HM

 

[HolyMan]

Hey Erwinfoxjj, was wondering why your sblocks didn't work in the Search in the dark?

very weird

WOW this was my 400th post was wondering when that would happen lol

 

[HolyMan]

I have just gone over the warlock class at Crystal Keep and as a DM my reaction of course is...

WHAT THE...?

So are there DM's out there allowing people to take a character with a ranged Touch attack that allows no save or SR, is UNLIMITED? in uses, does untyped damage so no resistance, can't be countered since it's not a spell, does a little less damage then a fireball but you don't get a save for 1/2 or get to use evasion, can detect magic at will?? why??
will have DR 1/ cold iron 4 lvls before a Barbarian, fast healing and energy resistance at higher lvls when most needed

I need to know the first person who thought up this class...
Wish I could have been there when he said "yeah this is just as balanced as playing a wizard or sorcerer"

Will it should go without saying I don't care for Warlock but I am know to be brought around better give some good reasons for allowing this in Theroc

I'm all ears eyes.

 

[Theroc]

I have just gone over the warlock class at Crystal Keep and as a DM my reaction of course is...

WHAT THE...?

So are there DM's out there allowing people to take a character with a ranged Touch attack that allows no save or SR, is UNLIMITED? in uses, does untyped damage so no resistance, can't be countered since it's not a spell, does a little less damage then a fireball but you don't get a save for 1/2 or get to use evasion, can detect magic at will?? why??
will have DR 1/ cold iron 4 lvls before a Barbarian, fast healing and energy resistance at higher lvls when most needed

I need to know the first person who thought up this class...
Wish I could have been there when he said "yeah this is just as balanced as playing a wizard or sorcerer"

Will it should go without saying I don't care for Warlock but I am know to be brought around better give some good reasons for allowing this in Theroc

I'm all ears eyes.

1. Eldritch Blasts All allow SR, EXCEPT the Greater Invocation "Vitriolic Blast" Which changes the Eldritch blasts damage from "Untyped" to "Acid"
2. Yes, it's unlimited, because a Warlock doesn't have the flexibility to use other spells.
3. Barbarians have d12 Hit dice. Warlocks have D6 hit dice. Barbarians DR cannot be pentrated.
4. All Warlock invocations allow SR, except those that do not effect opposing monsters (As I recall)
5. Warlock's power comes in stamina, not sheer pwnage power. Yes, they can fire Eldritch Blasts all day. A Wizard can hit more opponents and do about the same damage to a group of opponents in a single encounter. Warlock's just don't have the same concerns about resource management, Wizard/Sorcerers still have the big guns.
6. Eldritch Blast grows slower than a Rogue's Sneak Attacks.

Do these reasons help at all?

Edit:
7. There is a Cleric/Druid spell in the Spell Compendium called Lesser Vigor(there are higher versions of it as well) here it is.

VIGOR, LESSER
Conjuration (Healing)
Level: Cleric 1, druid 1
Components: V, S
Casting Time: 1 standard action
Range: Touch
Target: Living creature touched
Duration: 10 rounds + 1 round/level
(max 15 rounds)
Saving Throw: Will negates
(harmless)
Spell Resistance: Yes (harmless)

The subject gains fast healing 1,
enabling it to heal 1 hit point per round
until the spell ends and automatically
becoming stabilized if it begins dying
from hit point loss during that time.
Lesser vigor does not restore hit points
lost from starvation, thirst, or suffocation,
nor does it allow a creature to
regrow or attach lost body parts.
The effects of multiple vigor spells
do not stack; only the highest-level
effect applies.

That spell along with it's greater versions allows Clerics to beat out the Warlock's 1/day Fast healing for a few minutes, by applying it to anyone they touch, as well as being able to cast it multiple times in a day(if they prepare it multiple times)

I've tossed up a thread in the 3rd Edition rules section about Warlocks being broken or not as well, to get additional input as to whether they are or not.

http://www.enworld.org/forum/d-d-3rd-edition-rules/260698-warlocks-being-broken.html

 

[HolyMan]

ok lets see:

1.reread says no save, SR applies (thought it was saying no save no SR), but how many monsters/NPCs have an SR score so your still really saying no way to avoid it is a range attack why no evasion or save for 1/2(i.e. dropping out of the way or ducking behind someone/something)
2.it said that at 20th lvl they will have 12 invocations but it didn't list invocations or their uses per day (please say that they are not unlimited)
3.And everyone buys that cold iron longsword to keep just in case but the question is why the DR I got no flavor at Crystal Keep I'm assuming that a warlock is demon/devils related due to eldrith energy and cold iron vulnerability(and you can roll a 1 on a d12 as easily as a d6)
4.I definetly need to look at the invocations before offical ruling.
5.Not going to sell me on the unlimited uses unless you know another ability a class has that is unlimited-- rage is limited, bard song is limited , turn undead, wild shape, stunning fist, smite evil, lay on hands heck even the warrior is limited by weapons carried Why is it not a number of times per day +con mod type ability???
6.But the Rogue is a limited to the circumstances (flanking,surprise) he doesn't get it all the time if they did it would be way over powered and they are not using a touch attack (Red Dragon Great Wyrm touch AC:2 normal AC:41)

just don't see why the class is the way it is guess i need some background/fluff for my brain to wrap around stats