OGL 1.1 live chat with a lawyer at Roll for Crit.
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Sacrosanct
Legend
Some people on social media and forums isn’t the fan base. While I agree that it would be nice to have them relent, I don’t think there is a big backlash.
mamba
Legend
too early to celebrate. I will relax once we have the official new OGL, it makes the license royalty free, irrevocable and perpetual. No registration, no reporting, no fee
Throw out software and NFTs if you want, but print, pdf and vtt stay.
Then I am ok with the change
No, but we're the ones who rile up the fan base. It always starts with the dedicated fans.
And we're the "whales" - the casual fan doesn't buy the majority of the products.
WotC will notice. And I think the leadership will feel it.
Lanefan
Victoria Rules
I'd be pretty shocked if this kills OneD&D (a.k.a. 5.5e).
They need something to release in 2024 as a 50th-anniversary special and right now it's all they've got; it's probably too late to start over.
Lanefan
Victoria Rules
Especially considering that book release is probably 18 months from now.
This bruhaha on EN World pretty much matches the same bruhahas we see when WotC releases a potential rule change in a UA article... a massive number of "How dare they!"s and declarations of dropping D&D... and then in a few week's time there's some other thing that grabs people's attentions and the rule change is forgotten.
So to think this OGL "thing" will still BE a thing in 2024 seems a teensy-bit far-fetched to me. The book designers have a year-and-a-half to just keep their heads down making their books, while the corporate-types figure out their money schemes. And then after the schemes have been resolved, the books can see their release in the summer of '24 and everyone will kumbaya around the 50th Anniversary like we all planned.
I agree with this. By the time the books are released this will be another storm in a teacup even if heads roll in the C suite over this.
I can see where the corporate executives are coming from in this. They see opportunities in the IP and brand beyond the traditional table top and want to lock down the IP and in some ways they are being smarter than in the 4e era.
At that time, WoTC played their cards very close, with the GSL released after the game being released, so late in fact, that if memory serves, Paizo were making noises about separating.
I think that they can get away with an OGL version that further restricts the IP and adds terms and conditions as long as they stay away from revoking the existing licences and revoking any future material based on them.
It will take longer but they could get to where they want to go over multiple iterations of licence and rules drift from the base of the 5.1 SRD OGC and end up where they want.
UngeheuerLich
Legend
I would not mind taking royalities for new products. But anything that touches existing games who were made to believe they can use the OGL forever and have evolved into their own product is a no go.
In Germany, even though I am no lawyer, there is something like a custom right.
For example, if the employer tolerated that the the employee works more hours on monday to go earlier fridays for several years, it becomes a part of the contract.
Also, if you have a limited time trial contract and just go to work afterwards and your boss is giving you work, your contract is turned into a permanent one...
As far as I know, this bit is part of standard EU law. It may be implemented differently in different countries but it applies in Ireland for instance.
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