OGL? SUccess or failure?

[Wulf Ratbane]

And finally, please note that I was not attempting to convince anybody of anything in this thread.

Tim, it's rare that we see eye to eye on anything OGL related, but I appreciate hearing your opinon. (All. The. Time... )

 

[orangefruitbat]

It's not about how many titles are released

But how many are bought and played. I think that tons of non D20 products are being released. That's to be expected. The Internet makes advertising easier, printing technology is getting better and pdfs allow people to release books without sinking lots of cash into a big print run.

But that doesn't mean that the OGL isn't doing it's job. Some people (like me) are system junkies. They love learning new ways to calculate probabilities and get all excited about bell curves, dice pools, etc. No gaming system will satisfy their desire for new stuff.

And system junkies collect games. So I'll pick up the latest edition of Paranioa, WFRP, Harp, Shadowrun, Noblis, Angel, AFMBE, etc. BUT THIS DOESN'T mean I'm playing them. What my group is playing right now is D20, specifically Iron Heroes. Collectively, our group has purchased 4 copies of the IH rulebook in the last week or so. And I'm the only one with the HARP book (which I will say is nifty). For the next 6 months to a year, we'll be playing IH weekly. I'll be adapting DnD modules (mostly from Dungeon).

4 of our players aren't system junkies and pretty much only buy the core rules of whatever game we're playing (DnD, Conan, Star Wars D20). 1 player likes D20 stuff and WOD stuff, so that's what he buys. 1 player doesn't really like D20 (but is a total GURPS-head), but games with us anyways.

This is all anecdotal since I don't have sales numbers. But I suspect Buring Wheel sells a lot less than say Earthdawn did. And while I hope HARP sells well, I bet it's less than RM 2.

 

[Storm Raven]

Yes, it is. And there are quite likely very valid reasons for that.

In other news, the sky is falling.

 

[JoeGKushner]

In other news, the sky is falling.

Ah, my old quote. But your forgot to make it uppercase.

 

[Rasyr]

Tim, it's rare that we see eye to eye on anything OGL related, but I appreciate hearing your opinon. (All. The. Time... )

Hey! You can blame diaglo and BelemUmbria for this thread, not me. I would not have posted this except that they specifically requested that I do and explain the reasoning behind an off-hand comment I had made elsewhere...

 

[Belen]

Hey! You can blame diaglo and BelemUmbria for this thread, not me. I would not have posted this except that they specifically requested that I do and explain the reasoning behind an off-hand comment I had made elsewhere...

True. Your comment was too compelling to warrant a single statement with no explanation.

 

[Ranger REG]

I don't think that's very likely.

Well, I'm hoping it will, but just not too soon. If anything, I'm praying the line will continue even when D&D is in its 4e stage.

 

[Ranger REG]

If you think I am wrong, that is fine. I even admit the possibility that I could very well be wrong about these things. You read a little more into what I had said than I had been attempting to say. No biggie, happens all the time. However, I did not start this thread to start a debate or disussion or convince anybody of my views. If you don't think that I am right, then more power to you.

Then let's agree to disagree. But take it from a recently turned 36-year-old who is losing his hair bit by bit ... sighs ... don't worry too much.

 

[Rasyr]

REG - I try not to worry when I don't have to.

Besides, I'll turn 39 myself next month, though I do still do have all my hair (but I keep it shaved very short).

 

[Particle_Man]

So let the flaming begin!

From a purely selfish pov, it has been a success. I like the d20 system, so appreciate being able to try new things without having to learn a new system. For instance, Iron Heroes, which I might have simply ignored, if it had not been so d20 compatible.