OK, we're gettng a little annoyed here!

[Piratecat]

While that would be ideal, from what I've seen that's not going to happen. It hasn't happened yet, it's not happening now and certain segments are becoming increasingly intrenched in their opinions and polarized over 4e. The vibe here has become increasingly un-fun.

Huh. Actually, I think things have improved dramatically in the last month and a half.

 

[Kid Charlemagne]

Perhaps it’s enough to create a separate Criticisms & Critiques style board. I don’t how that would fly, and maybe you’re right and there is nothing that can be done. But let me throw the ball back into your court for a moment… ultimately, what do you want this board to accomplish? What do you hope people will get out of coming here during the lead-up to 4e, in a 4e forum? What do hope newcomers and older players who are returning to the game will get out of coming here?

There’s a lot of good discussion here, it’s still my favorite board. But I didn’t come here to fight an edition war (which is real easy to get caught up in here) or try to wade through one to find the interesting discussions.

I kind of left my thought incomplete in my previous post - when I said we'll have to muddle through, I meant we'll have to muddle through until the rules actually come out. My suspicion is that the bulk of the arguments here come from people guesstimating what the rules will be, or projecting their own feelings onto things. As the actual rules come into sharper focus, and finally are released, I think that a lot of the acrimony will die out. Once we're actually talking about facts and not opinions, things will qiet down significantly.

 

[Roland55]

Huh. Actually, I think things have improved dramatically in the last month and a half.

Oh, it has ... it has.

Somehow the real 'punch' seems to be slowly seeping out of all the sniping. It seems the Forumites can't hardly be bothered to loathe one another any more.

Where, oh where, has all the hating gone?

 

[HeinorNY]

Where, oh where, has all the hating gone?

Oh but it's still around... lurking in the corner cases of the forums... praying to unholy cows... and evoking the forces of scientific chaos to slowly drive us mad!

 

[PowerWordDumb]

It wouldn't hurt to recall the days of the original Eric Noah 3rd Edition News & Rumors Site, where the guideline was the "Grandma Rule." Pretend your grandma is over for dinner. Would you be this rude to other people at the table while your grandma was watching?

You want to be reeaaaaaally careful who you ask that, cause some of our grandmothers were the first to throw a punch.

 

[Dinkeldog]

Pretend that Eric's grandmother (or Morrus' or mine--even my mother would work).

 

[PowerWordDumb]

Pretend that Eric's grandmother (or Morrus' or mine--even my mother would work).

I can play games full of wizards, trolls, and demons, but I'm not sure my suspension of disbelief extends that far.

Nonetheless, I do make the effort.

 

[Aaron L]

I think the term "passive aggressive" gets thrown around too much,

I'm glad someone finally said it.

 

[Doug McCrae]

I'm glad someone finally said it.

Do you remember how in the 90s the reason anyone did anything bad was because they had low self-esteem? Now, no one has low self esteem but we're all passive aggressive. It's the pop psychology buzz phrase du jour and means absolutely nothing.

 

[Kesh]

Do you remember how in the 90s the reason anyone did anything bad was because they had low self-esteem? Now, no one has low self esteem but we're all passive aggressive. It's the pop psychology buzz phrase du jour and means absolutely nothing.

It actually has a very specific meaning. But, like most specific terms, most people use it incorrectly.