Once you go C&C, you never go back

[Treebore]

You keep on thinking that. Plenty of people get throught life just fine even while always being wrong.

Yep.

 

[jdrakeh]

I'm really disappointed by this, and it just winds up being further fodder to support people's dislike based on the behavior of fans.

Yeah -- me, too. That's blatant, deliberate, trolling that serves no productive purpose whatsoever. None at all. Going to another site/forum specifically to seed discontent amongst fans of another game by saying that it's horrible? Where's the productivity in that. It's not clever or friendly. It's basic internet trolling.

This is, I think, very out of character for Treebore, yet. . .

You have that other post at TLG (wherein he brags about trolling RPGnet) and the one a few posts up above this one (where he attempts to say that his behavior was perfectly righteous and that the real problem is with people who don't like it he attacks their favorite game). This makes me sad

 

[Frost]

thanks

Hi Folks,

I've decided to chime back in after four pages of posts.

Firstly, if someone could tell me how, I would amend the poll to include other options. Namely, I'd like to add "I'd rather just play AD&D/OD&D" and "I play both."

It's interesting to see how heated this became. Some pretty strong feelings about all of this. By and large,
it seems that folks are drawn or repelled to C&C by the same thing: it's half-way between AD&D and 3.X. To me, that sounds like a good thing.

Anyhow, thanks for the info.

 

[Dragonhelm]

For all those who think that people who support C&C always do it by bashing 3.x edition, it's because it seems that almost everybody who moves on to C&C has already tried 3.x edition, wanted to like it, and been frustrated by it. That's certainly true for my gaming group.

I like a lot of 3rd edition, but there are things in it that frustrated me too. I worked on all sorts of house rules to get what I wanted, but I found it a bit harder to take apart 3.5 than it was to add to C&C.

C&C players are by-in-large actually lovers of D&D who are honest about the previous edition's faults, but also conscious of the current edition's failures.

I would say as well that C&C players are also conscious of 3.5's successes. For example, part of what makes d20 so great is that everything scales upward. C&C borrowed that idea and implemented it as part of the SIEGE engine.

 

[Treebore]

Yeah -- me, too. That's blatant, deliberate, trolling that serves no productive purpose whatsoever. None at all. Going to another site/forum specifically to seed discontent about fans of another game by saying that it's horrible? Where's the productivity in that. It's not clever or friendly. It's basic internet trolling.

This is, I think, very out of character for Treebore. Yet you have that other post at TLG (wherein he brags about stirring up people) and the one a few posts up above this one (where he attempts to say that his behavior was perfectly righteous and that the real problem is with people who don't like it he attacks their favorite game).

This makes me sad

Lets keep this over on RPGnet. IF you have something to say that you want me to see PM via this board. The ENWorld environment doesn't tolerate this kind of stuff, and neither do I.

 

[jdrakeh]

The ENWorld environment doesn't tolerate this kind of stuff, and neither do I.

You're in error here. Nothing that has been said in this thread is against ENWorld guidelines save, perhaps, for your commenting upon issues that the populace of another forum has. You're not an ENWorld moderator and you don't get to shut people down just because you don't like what they have to say.

 

[gideon_thorne]

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It's interesting to see how heated this became. Some pretty strong feelings about all of this. By and large,
it seems that folks are drawn or repelled to C&C by the same thing: it's half-way between AD&D and 3.X. To me, that sounds like a good thing.

Anyhow, thanks for the info.

I never understood the hysterics myself. What does it matter what someone is having fun doing? Sure, I'd like folks to buy the stuff I am involved in, but it wont hurt my feelings if people don't find it to their taste. Seems like a silly thing to loose sleep over honestly.

 

[Eric Tolle]

Well, Treebore's enough to sell ME off the game. I don't need anything that promotes that sort of attitude.

This is a useful thread though: if someone asks me about the game, I can just forward them over to his posts here, and let them decide about the maturity of its fans.

 

[jdrakeh]

Well, Treebore's enough to sell ME off the game. I don't need anything that promotes that sort of attitude.

Somewhat embarassingly, I must apologize for earlier praising Treebore's approach to promoting C&C. Apparently, he's been engaging in some unpalatable behaviors, which I was previously unaware of. This sudden revelation coupled with his posts on this page of the current thread seem to shed much light on his true demeanor. I want to make it clear that I endorse absolutely none of this.

 

[gideon_thorne]

*smiles* The folks at TLG would like to make it clear that we consider fanatics of any sort completely crazy.

Especially those radical artists *coughs* who fanatically draw cute fantasy girls.

Peter B

Art Trolllord.